Have The LA Rams Found Two More Gems: OLB Teidrick Smith/RB Lenard Tillery?

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Have The LA Rams Found Two More Gems?

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Benny Cunningham. Rodney McLeod. Johnny Hekker. The Rams have had success finding UDFA gems. Did they land two more this offseason?

by misone May 31, 2017, 9:37am CDT

Since the Los Angeles Rams hired General Manager Les Snead in 2012, the Rams have had very good success finding undrafted free agents (UDFA) at the conclusion of drafts who can stick on the roster long-term.

Whether it's a do-it-all Swiss army knife like Chicago Bears — and former Rams — RB Benny Cunningham, a top ten safety in the mold of Philadelphia Eagles — former Ram — FS Rodney McLeod, or a perennial All-Pro and Pro Bowler like P Johnny Hekker or even the great depth and core special teams signings of players like Daren Bates, Cody Davis, Chase Reynolds or Bradley Marquez, the Rams have routinely found contributors post-draft.

Now, with the conclusion of the 2017 NFL Draft, there's another UDFA haul with the potential to unveil a quality player or two.

Have the Rams landed two more?

The Rams signed two players that stand out to me. There's obviously the signing of former Washington Huskies guard — though he'll play center for the Rams — Jake Eldrenkamp. But this time I'm looking at the less obvious.

DE/OLB Teidrick Smith and RB Lenard Tillery are two prospects that might have what it takes to make the team and then some.

Mary Hardin-Baylor DE/OLB Teidrick Smith
Smith is quite the specimen. First and foremost, he simply looks the part at 6’1” 240 with an absolute shredded physique. Just check out his Instagram page. Not that looking the part means much. Smith also simply plays the part.

He combines speed and power in a way that reminds me of a young James Harrison, minus the crazy demeanor. It’s actually quite impressive watching him convert speed into power, and vice versa. He sets the edge violently when defending the run, often times creating a tackle for loss for a teammate or just doing the entire job himself.


It looks like he enjoys blowing up guards or lead blockers on run plays almost like he’s waiting for it each time. He’s already a very good run defender which is something most pass rushers have to develop with time. That ability to play the run might be his key to making the roster. It’s one of the more exciting parts to this game.

He plays a very physical brand of football, and each sack looks like he hit the hit stick button. He literally blows the guy away on each tackle. He demonstrates one speed only, and that’s all in. Whether he’s coming around the edge for the sack or in pursuit of the ball carrier, he comes screaming like a missile every single time. The high effort that he regularly demonstrates is the kind of play and mentality that special teams coordinators crave. Special Teams Coordinator John “Bones” Fassel, will surely be eager to test him out on kick coverage when the pads are on in camp.

Then there’s his pass rush skills. Of course everything else about his game is nice, but it’s his ability to get to the quarterback that got this little known Division III prospect from Mary-Hardin Baylor University this golden opportunity.


Smith does an excellent job getting to the quarterback using a wide range of moves. He has very good hand usage, and it could even be described as advanced, considering the level he’s coming from and the fact that most college players lack consistent hands. He usually has a move for a move for a move, showing the ability to adjust to good blocks by throwing something else at the lineman back to back to back all during the same play. He can get around the edge using either speed or power, as he uses his natural leverage (6’1’ frame) to get under the lineman’s pads. His leg drive on the bull rush is highly impressive, and he has a blazing get off on the snap. At times, it looked like he knew the snap count.

Have a look at these almost unreal stats:

Teidrick Smith
Year Tackles TFL Sacks FF FR Int PBU
2013 61 19 9.5 1 3
2014 47 14.5 9 1 2 1 9
2015 64 27 18 1 4
2016 60 23.5 15.5 1 1 4
Career Totals: 232 84 52 3 3 2 20

Smith also blocked six kicks in one season — Bones will love this kid — and scored a defensive touchdown and was three times the conference defensive player of the year, all done in 55 games. That is a ridiculous amount of sacks and tackles for loss in just 55 games. I don’t care what level you did it at.

However, its not all sunshine and rainbows. Smith has a tendency of playing entirely too high. Two things have worked in his favor to this point: the level of competition and his shorter-than-ideal height. In a lot of games, the opposition played too high as well. He also does not show the consistent flexibility around the edge. You just don’t see that bend, to dip under the tackle and get to the quarterback, although him playing too high might be the reason for this, and getting lower could remedy both issues. He often gets around the edge by simply being faster than an over-matched tackle, or using that surprisingly strong bull rush that he possesses. However, he should find it more difficult at this level, without showing flexibility.

Southern RB Lenard Tillery
And then there is Lenard Tillery. Is it odd that he signed with the Rams and the player he most reminds me of is Benny Cunningham whom the Rams just lost to free agency?

I can’t say his feet are as sweet as Cunningham’s, something I loved about Benny when predicting he would make the team and what kind of impact he would have years ago. That’s not to say Tillery doesn’t have nice feet though, because he really does. He has a highly impressive jump cut, just like Benny. And his vision and patience — then burst through the hole — is exactly what you want out of your back.

He runs with unbelievably good balance. Guys can come downhill as hard as they want, but you simply can’t knock the kid off his feet. He breaks a lot of tackles. You have to wrap him up, and you have to drive your feet. Even then, there is no guarantee he’s going to go down. At 5’09” and 205 lbs., he runs extremely hard,and plays a lot bigger than you’d expect.


Tillery’s most impressive traits are probably his burst and open field running ability. He doesn’t have blow you away top end speed, but he pulls away from defenders due to his initial acceleration. He is about average as it gets for an NFL running back in regards to top end speed (4.56 and 4.58 40-yard dash times). Once Tillery makes his cut, he is usually sticking that foot in the ground and pushing that ball upfield with no hesitation. If he gets in the open field, there is a really good chance something special will happen.

Lenard Tillery
Year Rushes Yards YPA TDs REC Yds YPC TDs
2013 184 784 4.3 9 17 135 7.9
2014 209 1196 5.7 9 19 196 10.3
2015 197 1211 6.1 14 19 173 9.1 1
2016 247 1665 6.7 13 20 307 15.4 2
Career Totals: 837 4856 22.8 45 75 811 10.675 3
Tillery is a very good receiver, and it’s usually pretty wise to throw him the ball, as it gives him a chance to show off that special open field running ability. However, much remains to be seen in the pass pro department. He could turn out to be a very good third down back like Cunningham, but also like Benny, he enters as a poor pass protector. However, one thing Benny knew was he was not going to make the team solely based on his running ability and had to perfect his craft in the area of special teams and pass pro, he even said as much in an OTA interview as a rookie. Tillery, will have to adopt the same mentality.

Tillery is a former walk-on player who went on to set new records at Southern University. It displays a good work ethic, as history shows, some of the best diamonds have been a walk-on at their respected colleges (Danny Amendola, Wes Welker, Ezekiel Ansah, or the most extreme example, Clay Mathews, plus many more). These guys usually tend to outwork everyone, and Tillery could do the same, and be the next guy up.

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I like Teidrick Smith maybe a Darren Bates 2.0 and being a special team phenom will endear him to John Fassel...As to Tillery could be a practice squad candidate, but I really like Malcolm Brown backing Gurley because of Brown's size. IMHO it helps to have some size to move the pile forward.
 

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I don't see it right now. Both will be cut & not even in practice squad ?
 

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Those are two positions that we could use some really good competition for depth so that's good. The RBs are crowded though so would be surprised to see Tillery make the squad but practice squad is possible.

Smith, the dude is definitely a specimen. We need a couple people to really step up at LB'er for depth and special teams so he's got a chance.
 

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I think smith makes it also. We definitely need another LBr and he consistently uses speed, power, and instinct to make fundamentally sound collisions. You can tell he loves the game by how he plays.
 

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Other than Eldrenkamp, I don't see a UDFA making the PS....

These are 2 players I'm really excited to see play.

The just seem to have the perfect body types for there positions. I see a lot of athletic ability from both players.

--Peterson seems to be able to compete with one on one balls in red zone.


McKinzy just seems to position himself well on pass plays. Able to get good depth. Not sure how he does just coming up & making tackles.

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These are 2 players I'm really excited to see play.

The just seem to have the perfect body types for there positions. I see a lot of athletic ability from both players.

--Peterson seems to be able to compete with one on one balls in red zone.


McKinzy just seems to position himself well on pass plays. Able to get good depth. Not sure how he does just coming up & making tackles.

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Kevin Peterson
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I happen to catch McKinzy a couple years ago watching Auburn...He's actually been on the roster for a year...so I didn't count him...There's another OLB from....some team...Carlos Thompson. 6'4 about 250 ish...I like him too. Again, 2nd year player

I saw Peterson on the Rams OTA film...so I looked him up a couple days ago....Played for Oklahoma or OK State...nice player...great write ups....my only thing against him...he ran that 4.55 and I don't really see guys running that time as Son of Bum press/man corners...but I kinda like him.
 

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Can somebody please elaborate where the hell Mike Singletary is? I would love him to still coach our LB core. I don't care if it's a DE in a 4-3 Singletary would be able to help him somehow, someway. Would really love to see him back. Haven't seen any updates of him joining a team anywhere. Anybody else share the same sentiment as me?

Imagine Singletary molding two of these young pieces of clay...
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Have The LA Rams Found Two More Gems?

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Benny Cunningham. Rodney McLeod. Johnny Hekker. The Rams have had success finding UDFA gems. Did they land two more this offseason?

by misone May 31, 2017, 9:37am CDT

Since the Los Angeles Rams hired General Manager Les Snead in 2012, the Rams have had very good success finding undrafted free agents (UDFA) at the conclusion of drafts who can stick on the roster long-term.

Whether it's a do-it-all Swiss army knife like Chicago Bears — and former Rams — RB Benny Cunningham, a top ten safety in the mold of Philadelphia Eagles — former Ram — FS Rodney McLeod, or a perennial All-Pro and Pro Bowler like P Johnny Hekker or even the great depth and core special teams signings of players like Daren Bates, Cody Davis, Chase Reynolds or Bradley Marquez, the Rams have routinely found contributors post-draft.

Now, with the conclusion of the 2017 NFL Draft, there's another UDFA haul with the potential to unveil a quality player or two.

Have the Rams landed two more?

The Rams signed two players that stand out to me. There's obviously the signing of former Washington Huskies guard — though he'll play center for the Rams — Jake Eldrenkamp. But this time I'm looking at the less obvious.

DE/OLB Teidrick Smith and RB Lenard Tillery are two prospects that might have what it takes to make the team and then some.

Mary Hardin-Baylor DE/OLB Teidrick Smith
Smith is quite the specimen. First and foremost, he simply looks the part at 6’1” 240 with an absolute shredded physique. Just check out his Instagram page. Not that looking the part means much. Smith also simply plays the part.

He combines speed and power in a way that reminds me of a young James Harrison, minus the crazy demeanor. It’s actually quite impressive watching him convert speed into power, and vice versa. He sets the edge violently when defending the run, often times creating a tackle for loss for a teammate or just doing the entire job himself.


It looks like he enjoys blowing up guards or lead blockers on run plays almost like he’s waiting for it each time. He’s already a very good run defender which is something most pass rushers have to develop with time. That ability to play the run might be his key to making the roster. It’s one of the more exciting parts to this game.

He plays a very physical brand of football, and each sack looks like he hit the hit stick button. He literally blows the guy away on each tackle. He demonstrates one speed only, and that’s all in. Whether he’s coming around the edge for the sack or in pursuit of the ball carrier, he comes screaming like a missile every single time. The high effort that he regularly demonstrates is the kind of play and mentality that special teams coordinators crave. Special Teams Coordinator John “Bones” Fassel, will surely be eager to test him out on kick coverage when the pads are on in camp.

Then there’s his pass rush skills. Of course everything else about his game is nice, but it’s his ability to get to the quarterback that got this little known Division III prospect from Mary-Hardin Baylor University this golden opportunity.


Smith does an excellent job getting to the quarterback using a wide range of moves. He has very good hand usage, and it could even be described as advanced, considering the level he’s coming from and the fact that most college players lack consistent hands. He usually has a move for a move for a move, showing the ability to adjust to good blocks by throwing something else at the lineman back to back to back all during the same play. He can get around the edge using either speed or power, as he uses his natural leverage (6’1’ frame) to get under the lineman’s pads. His leg drive on the bull rush is highly impressive, and he has a blazing get off on the snap. At times, it looked like he knew the snap count.

Have a look at these almost unreal stats:

Teidrick Smith
Year Tackles TFL Sacks FF FR Int PBU
2013 61 19 9.5 1 3
2014 47 14.5 9 1 2 1 9
2015 64 27 18 1 4
2016 60 23.5 15.5 1 1 4
Career Totals: 232 84 52 3 3 2 20

Smith also blocked six kicks in one season — Bones will love this kid — and scored a defensive touchdown and was three times the conference defensive player of the year, all done in 55 games. That is a ridiculous amount of sacks and tackles for loss in just 55 games. I don’t care what level you did it at.

However, its not all sunshine and rainbows. Smith has a tendency of playing entirely too high. Two things have worked in his favor to this point: the level of competition and his shorter-than-ideal height. In a lot of games, the opposition played too high as well. He also does not show the consistent flexibility around the edge. You just don’t see that bend, to dip under the tackle and get to the quarterback, although him playing too high might be the reason for this, and getting lower could remedy both issues. He often gets around the edge by simply being faster than an over-matched tackle, or using that surprisingly strong bull rush that he possesses. However, he should find it more difficult at this level, without showing flexibility.

Southern RB Lenard Tillery
And then there is Lenard Tillery. Is it odd that he signed with the Rams and the player he most reminds me of is Benny Cunningham whom the Rams just lost to free agency?

I can’t say his feet are as sweet as Cunningham’s, something I loved about Benny when predicting he would make the team and what kind of impact he would have years ago. That’s not to say Tillery doesn’t have nice feet though, because he really does. He has a highly impressive jump cut, just like Benny. And his vision and patience — then burst through the hole — is exactly what you want out of your back.

He runs with unbelievably good balance. Guys can come downhill as hard as they want, but you simply can’t knock the kid off his feet. He breaks a lot of tackles. You have to wrap him up, and you have to drive your feet. Even then, there is no guarantee he’s going to go down. At 5’09” and 205 lbs., he runs extremely hard,and plays a lot bigger than you’d expect.


Tillery’s most impressive traits are probably his burst and open field running ability. He doesn’t have blow you away top end speed, but he pulls away from defenders due to his initial acceleration. He is about average as it gets for an NFL running back in regards to top end speed (4.56 and 4.58 40-yard dash times). Once Tillery makes his cut, he is usually sticking that foot in the ground and pushing that ball upfield with no hesitation. If he gets in the open field, there is a really good chance something special will happen.

Lenard Tillery
Year Rushes Yards YPA TDs REC Yds YPC TDs
2013 184 784 4.3 9 17 135 7.9
2014 209 1196 5.7 9 19 196 10.3
2015 197 1211 6.1 14 19 173 9.1 1
2016 247 1665 6.7 13 20 307 15.4 2
Career Totals: 837 4856 22.8 45 75 811 10.675 3
Tillery is a very good receiver, and it’s usually pretty wise to throw him the ball, as it gives him a chance to show off that special open field running ability. However, much remains to be seen in the pass pro department. He could turn out to be a very good third down back like Cunningham, but also like Benny, he enters as a poor pass protector. However, one thing Benny knew was he was not going to make the team solely based on his running ability and had to perfect his craft in the area of special teams and pass pro, he even said as much in an OTA interview as a rookie. Tillery, will have to adopt the same mentality.

Tillery is a former walk-on player who went on to set new records at Southern University. It displays a good work ethic, as history shows, some of the best diamonds have been a walk-on at their respected colleges (Danny Amendola, Wes Welker, Ezekiel Ansah, or the most extreme example, Clay Mathews, plus many more). These guys usually tend to outwork everyone, and Tillery could do the same, and be the next guy up.

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This has gotten me extremely Pumped up! I can't wait to see these two in action this pre-season!!(y):D

I like Teidrick Smith maybe a Darren Bates 2.0 and being a special team phenom will endear him to John Fassel...As to Tillery could be a practice squad candidate, but I really like Malcolm Brown backing Gurley because of Brown's size. IMHO it helps to have some size to move the pile forward.
I agree completely, I too prefer Brown!! Maybe Tilley could become our #3 RB!?!(y)
 

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Can somebody please elaborate where the hell Mike Singletary is? I would love him to still coach our LB core. I don't care if it's a DE in a 4-3 Singletary would be able to help him somehow, someway. Would really love to see him back. Haven't seen any updates of him joining a team anywhere. Anybody else share the same sentiment as me?

Imagine Singletary molding two of these young pieces of clay...
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I sure wish McVay could find a way to bring Singletary back onto the Rams Staff!!!!
 

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This has gotten me extremely Pumped up! I can't wait to see these two in action this pre-season!!(y):D


I agree completely, I too prefer Brown!! Maybe Tilley could become our #3 RB!?!(y)


Is Justin Davis ?? Or even Aaron Green who is a smallish RB , but has shown he can play special teams.
 

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You never want to dismiss a guy too early that can rush the passer. Good size for a Lber. Great report on run defense makes me think he could play in the middle and outside. Could a least be a nice PS stash.

It looks like he enjoys blowing up guards or lead blockers on run plays almost like he’s waiting for it each time. He’s already a very good run defender which is something most pass rushers have to develop with time. That ability to play the run might be his key to making the roster. It’s one of the more exciting parts to this game.



The first link interview Q and A confirms somethings about him.
The new reports shows glimpses of what looks like a pro day workout.
Part of article that he got some notice from Cowboy blogger is number 3 who say him play.


http://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/teidrick-smith-lb-university-of-mary-hardin-baylor/

http://www.kxxv.com/clip/13297003/umhbs-teidrick-smith-invited-to-rams-mini-camp

http://www.scout.com/nfl/cowboys/story/1714310-scouting-cowboys-bama-s-allen-tops-our-list



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DE Teidrick Smith, Mary Hardin-Baylor
Vitals: 6-foot-1, 240 pounds, Sr.

Short bio: Two-time Division III All-American (honorable mention in 2014, second team in 2015).

Considered a: Not ranked.

You have to turn over a lot of rocks to find a gem, especially at the Division III level. But Smith has potential. The Crusaders are using him as an edge rusher and he has the speed and instincts to get at opposing quarterbacks. He had 18 sacks last season. To move to the NFL Smith would have to transition to linebacker, and that wouldn’t be a bad thing in the Cowboys’ 4-3 defense. His speed would fit in well. His ability to get to the quarterback would be a value add. He’s a sure-handed tackler and opportunistic, as I saw when he forced a fumble against Linfield. Smith likely won’t be drafted and will struggle to get noticed. Speedy linebackers are a dime a dozen. But I saw a player with speed, instincts and skill that’s worth a flier as an undrafted free agent in the right system.
 
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Is Justin Davis ?? Or even Aaron Green who is a smallish RB , but has shown he can play special teams.
I like them both too! But I figure we will only carry 3 RB's and a FB! Probably Gurley-Brown-Green and Rogers! JMHO