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Have Rams solved their offensive line issues?
By Nick Wagoner, ESPN Staff Writer

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/19520/have-rams-solved-their-offensive-line-issues

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- The St. Louis Rams made some rare mid-July news this week when they used a fifth-round supplemental draft pick on Clemson offensive tackle Isaiah Battle.

That move brought their haul of rookie offensive linemen added this offseason to a whopping five. It also coincides with the return of the Twitter mailbag. And, as you'd expect, there were questions about Battle and the line.


Justin Koski @koski_justin
@nwagoner with 5 new OL, is the answer to the Rams oline riddle finally on the roster?


@nwagoner: That's one of the biggest questions surrounding this team right now. But unfortunately there's no answer for it at the moment. The Rams made a conscious decision to rebuild the line with youth rather than adding veterans, which is fine but it also feels like a bit of an overcorrection. To be sure, big free-agent investments made on the line didn't work out either, so going the other way does make some sense. But it also seemed like the Rams could have added at least one veteran piece at a cheaper rate to help out right away. The team believes Robert Havenstein and Jamon Brown can start right away, and there's a real chance they will. Beyond that, banking on a fourth, fifth or sixth-round pick is probably asking too much. But in an ideal world, they can all offer solid depth with one developing into a starter. Regardless, offensive line coach Paul Boudreau has a big task in front of him.

CHuff @huffster21
How many of these olineman can we realistically keep? I assume some would get plucked from our practice squad.


@nwagoner: Over the past few years, it hasn't been unusual for the Rams to go heavy on offensive linemen. They've kept 10 or even 11 at various points in Jeff Fisher's tenure. But nine is probably a realistic number with 10 an outside possibility. Even assuming that, they're probably going to end up releasing a player or two that might come with some level of name recognition. I'd venture to guess that one of the three centers competing for the starting spot, for example, will be squeezed out in the final tally. If you don't project to be a starter, it would be wise to add some versatility to your game if you want to make this roster on the offensive line.

James Armstrong @jamessarmstrong
Nick what can you tell us about Isaiah Battle. Anything special or just an OL numbers game?


@nwagoner: The Rams believe they got good value with Battle. In other words, a player who would have gone a round or two higher under normal circumstances but had enough question marks to drop him a bit in the supplemental draft. They have no plans to rush him, and anyone expecting him to compete with Havenstein right away will probably be disappointed. But he does have some athleticism and really long arms. He showed some prowess as a run blocker (Clemson's rushing stats were much better when running to his side) and has the tools to be an effective pass blocker. If he develops as the Rams hope, he could legitimately have a chance to overtake Havenstein, but it isn't likely to happen for two to three years.

Randy Mathew Smith @RandyMSmith1986
@nwagoner is there a slotted salary for a Sup Draft rookie like there is for the regular draft?


@nwagoner: Yes. The draft slotting system is generally used as the basis for a contract. In this case, the Rams were considered to have the eighth pick in the fifth round and that's where Battle's contract will likely come in. Or very close to it if not. That's how the Cleveland Browns handled it in 2012 when they drafted Josh Gordon. He got a deal that was equivalent to the second pick of the second round.

connor @con_cunningham
@nwagoner How's Brian Quick doing with his recovery? Will he be ready to play Week 1?


@nwagoner: Brian Quick made progress during organized team activities and was able to do some individual work throughout the spring sessions. The hope is that he'll be able to start doing some team drills sooner than later in camp, but we'll see how he is when he gets back with the team at the end of this month. I'd tend to think he's got a good shot to be ready to play Week 1 barring any setbacks, but again, we'll evaluate where he is when camp starts.
 

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Have Rams solved their offensive line issues?
@nwagoner:The Rams made a conscious decision to rebuild the line with youth rather than adding veterans, which is fine but it also feels like a bit of an overcorrection. To be sure, big free-agent investments made on the line didn't work out either, so going the other way does make some sense. But it also seemed like the Rams could have added at least one veteran piece at a cheaper rate to help out right away.
Wagoner says it makes some sense???? It makes a ton of sense Wagoner. Rams did add one veteran piece his name was Garrett Reynolds who is versatile enough to play & start @ 3 OL positions.
wagoner said ....Over the past few years, it hasn't been unusual for the Rams to go heavy on offensive linemen. They've kept 10 or even 11 at various points in Jeff Fisher's tenure.
I feel that we will see a 10 to 11 in the number of roster spots for OL'ers this season

wagoner said ....I'd venture to guess that one of the three centers competing for the starting spot, for example, will be squeezed out in the final tally. If you don't project to be a starter, it would be wise to add some versatility to your game if you want to make this roster on the offensive line.
If our most experienced center Tim Barnes wins the starting post then Barrett Jones with his abilities to play all five OL positions trumps Rhaney's chances big time. Even if Jones wins the start the experience of Barnes & his past 3 yrs with Boudreau where he has played OG trumps Rhaney once again.

wagoner said ......(Isiah Battle) he does have some athleticism and really long arms. He showed some prowess as a run blocker (Clemson's rushing stats were much better when running to his side) and has the tools to be an effective pass blocker. If he develops as the Rams hope, he could legitimately have a chance to overtake Havenstein, but it isn't likely to happen for two to three years.
Very early I know but Battle looks like a ton of left OT & very little Right OT to me. best you could hope for is he is a good back up to Robinson & pray he can develop Swing OT skills.
 

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>>The Rams believe they got good value with Battle. In other words, a player who would have gone a round or two higher under normal circumstances but had enough question marks to drop him a bit in the supplemental draft.<<

Under normal circumstances? Weren't the Rams the only team interested?
 

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ramsince62 missing his point:
Under normal circumstances? Weren't the Rams the only team interested?
Under normal circumstances as in during the normal draft.
 

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Oh, look!

Another "I wonder if the young offensive line will be any good" articles.
:eek:
 

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Rams have a lot of youngsters they have to evaluate within a short time. Barrett Jones' time to shine. Kid started 41 games in college @ every OL position, 3 BCS championships, He should be ready @ G or C. They have a lot of boddies to throw at RG & RT if Brown and Havenstien can't get it done. Reynolds and Washington can stand in til the youngsters are ready. Not ideal, but a starting OL of GRob, Saffold, Jones or Barnes, Reynolds and Washington should keep Foles on his feet for at least a 3 step drop. Don't count out the Rams picking up a FA vet after the rosters get trimmed to 53 if they don't like how the rookies look.
 

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Weren't the Rams the only team interested?
Due to the "silent auction" nature of it, we don't know how interested other teams were. There was noise that teams were considering submitting bids but no way to know who actually did or not. Like the Bills could have submitted a 7th round bid, or even also submitted a 5th round bid but the Rams got Battle due to their win-loss record tiebreaker, etc... I doubt the Bills or any other team would go on record after saying, "Damn Rams stole our guy!"