Greg Robinson on the bench to start the season?

[den-the-coach]

Damn Auburn Tigers wish that Les Snead and Jeff Fisher's son Trent attended and played football at Wossamotta U.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Lot more plausible to believe - 1. he's actually starting, 2. when he was drafted, the bills traded their veteran receiver stevie johnson right afterwards.

C'mon. What happens on one team (Buffalo) has absolutely nothing to do what would have happened in St. Louis (See, my Stephen Hill, Brian Quick point made earlier). Besides, after the ridiculous trade up they made, chances are that Watkins was going to start there even if he had forgotten how to play.

 

[Thordaddy]

Damn Auburn Tigers wish that Les Snead and Jeff Fisher's son Trent attended and played football at Wossamotta U.

i had a kids wrestling team called "The Mud City Manglers"

 

[Memphis Ram]

Calvin "Megatron" Johnson

Roy Williams and Mike Furrey started the first game of the 2007 season.

An even better talent at the position didn't start immediately? How is that possible?

Seriously though, I'm sorta surprised that this bit of info and the fact that Robert Quinn didn't even start immediately didn't end this thread altogether.:eek:

 

[BonifayRam]

Damn Auburn Tigers wish that Les Snead and Jeff Fisher's son Trent attended and played football at Wossamotta U.

Down here in the deep south I can tell you here that the Rams have developed a bigger following taking both Auburn's Mason & Robinson. Funny how that works....these Auburn/Alabama guys & gals keep up on their favorite college teams FOREVER! The Tigers seem to have a more rabid fan base (admitted much smaller than Bama) but they are loyal. They know what pro team took their guys & they will follow them.

Back to the Robinson not starting initially......a very good thing has materialized over @ ORG with the steady play of Davin Joseph (good thing) DJ has cemented himself in this post that was once Harvey Dahl later Rodger Saffold if DJ remains healthy & solid the Rams have improved in this post over last year IMO ...that's #1. This also permits Saffold to be the master plaster to fix any holes in the wall.(good thing) I do not think Ii would be wrong to think that Saffold would be the first fix to any injury to ORT- OLT-ORG & OLG right? Just looks like they want this high cost OL'er to starting in Chris Williams old post. This is also a very good improvement ....that's #2. The fact this season we have Greg Robinson initially being our first reserve to that OLG post is an improvement over what we had there last season with Shelley Smith ....that's #3 improvement over last season. I also consider our # 9 OL'er Mike Person a much better overall versatile player than last seasons Brandon Washington ...that's #4 improvements from my point of view.

One would think that Fisher will love to go into a game with only 2 reserve OL'ers...Barnes & Robinson. Since OLG Saffold is the main back up to three starters Long- Barksdale & Joseph .....like I said earlier Robinson is sure to get a opportunity to start very early.

 

[GreeneCounty]

The #2 pick in the draft can't even start at guard?????? Wow. Just wow.

Going into the draft, I wondered why Snead and Fisher would pass on a rock-solid prospect like Matthews, with a perfect pedigree.

Further, in pre-season Donald did not flash like the beast-mode that was expected.

Then we have #2 pick Pead (bust), huge $$$ for Finnegan and Cook with neither producing much. Tre Mason not showing much and was not needed.

No decent QB prospect in the draft where Sam is brittle.

I really think that Snead is a poor judge of talent. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't like the way the stars are lining up here.

Snead I agree seems to overrate a lot of these guys he drafted. I mean was Mason really a need at Running back?
I like the guy but he not starting ahead of Stacy or Bennie.

 

[Dagonet]

Don't know if this has been brought up yet, but even the "mighty Quinn" didn't break in as a "starter" in fact he was inactive (100% healthy) opening week at the ED vs Philly. (the year of the Cadillac Williams utter debacle)

We should be singing praises that we have enough talent NOT to rush him at this point.

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Philly5]

An even better talent at the position didn't start immediately? How is that possible?

Seriously though, I'm sorta surprised that this bit of info and the fact that Robert Quinn didn't even start immediately didn't end this thread altogether.:eek:

If I named a couple of guys taken #2 overall that started from day one would that be enough to reopen the thread?

I hope Robinson is All Pro, but the knock on him was how raw he was. Is he too raw to even start at guard?

 

[Pho Kadat]

I hope Robinson is All Pro, but the knock on him was how raw he was. Is he too raw to even start at guard?

Over Saffold and Joseph? I'd say yes, he is too raw. That said, he'll get his playing time.

 

[RamFan503]

Why? It's the truth. Not saying they're bad players or people. Some people can handle football. Others can't. That doesn't make them any less of a person. Knowing who is fragile allows the team to better plan for the future.

Really? I have to explain my problem with you wanting to set up a sportsbook wager here on ROD as to when OUR players go down to injury? Come on man.

 

[ZigZagRam]

Could it be possible that the Rams want the more-experienced-than-GRob RodgerSaffold playing next to Jake Long while he gets up to speed following major knee surgery?

Nah...can't be.

Robinson will see plenty of action this year. I'm not at all worried about him.

 

[RamFan503]

Over Saffold and Joseph? I'd say yes, he is too raw. That said, he'll get his playing time.

Funny. It's as if he is should be better than those two already.

BTW - Has Fish actually said Robinson won't start? Or are we still basing all this on conjecture from a TST blogger?

 

[Rams43]

The #2 pick in the draft can't even start at guard?????? Wow. Just wow.

Going into the draft, I wondered why Snead and Fisher would pass on a rock-solid prospect like Matthews, with a perfect pedigree.

Further, in pre-season Donald did not flash like the beast-mode that was expected.

Then we have #2 pick Pead (bust), huge $$$ for Finnegan and Cook with neither producing much. Tre Mason not showing much and was not needed.

No decent QB prospect in the draft where Sam is brittle.

I really think that Snead is a poor judge of talent. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't like the way the stars are lining up here.

I scarcely know where to start, VA.

I'll save time and space and just deal with your last 2 sentences.

Snead is a poor judge of talent? Don't like the way stars are lining up here? That's laughable...

Consider just THIS year's UDFA haul.

Watts
Bayer
Westbrooks
Roberson

Do those 4 seem like the result of a GM with a poor judge of talent to you? C'mon, man...

 

[RamWoodie]

As I read this thread...what's really obvious, is in this day and age...PEOPLE HAVE NO PATIENCE!!!

This is not Burger King, where you "have it your way"...there's a twofold responsibility in the draft...drafting smartly...and properly developing what you draft.

When you consider that...you can't in any "rational way" say Snead cannot judge talent...it's a LUDICROUS argument!

 

[V3]

Really? I have to explain my problem with you wanting to set up a sportsbook wager here on ROD as to when OUR players go down to injury? Come on man.

I think you're taking this a little too seriously.

 

[iced]

Calvin "Megatron" Johnson

Roy Williams and Mike Furrey started the first game of the 2007 season.

An even better talent at the position didn't start immediately? How is that possible?

Seriously though, I'm sorta surprised that this bit of info and the fact that Robert Quinn didn't even start immediately didn't end this thread altogether.:eek:

"Didn't start" but certainly played a significant amount - Calvin had 4 catches for 70 yards.

Not exactly the same thing as "Robinson not starting" if he doesn't see the field.. Unless lineman have sub-packages now

C'mon. What happens on one team (Buffalo) has absolutely nothing to do what would have happened in St. Louis (See, my Stephen Hill, Brian Quick point made earlier). Besides, after the ridiculous trade up they made, chances are that Watkins was going to start there even if he had forgotten how to play.

sadly, stevie has also consistently put better numbers better than any other ram receiver..

you're right - you shouldn't be comparing receivers who haven't even broken 700 yards once to a guy who has broken 1,000 multiple times

 

[Memphis Ram]

"Didn't start" but certainly played a significant amount - Calvin had 4 catches for 70 yards.

Not exactly the same thing as "Robinson not starting" if he doesn't see the field.. Unless lineman have sub-packages now

If teams did use sub-packages for Olinemen would that have made Robinson a better selection? If the Rams use Greg Robinson a few times on tackle eligible plays, goal line stands (offensively & defensively), and special teams would that make things better?

Never thought I would have to remind anyone this late post-draft, but the 2014 NFL draft is not for and just about the 2014 NFL season.

sadly, stevie has also consistently put better numbers better than any other ram receiver..

True. Means nothing regarding the points already made, but true.

 

[RamFan503]

Thanks for checking my grammar, I should have included the word onwards, it could easily be misinterpreted by someone trying to :bow:.

That's hardly checking grammar. Did you mean every first rounder from 2008, every 2nd overall pick from that year (I'm guessing not - just joking with you), every one of the top 5, 10, 15??? from that year? So from your response I'm guessing you meant over the last 6 years. If true, is that really a litmus test in THIS league?

I just think a lot is being made of this when in reality it is neither unusual or big news that a rookie doesn't get the start over experienced guards that though maybe oft injured, know a hell of a lot more than this kid. I want them to build talent and put the best players on the field to help us win. If that is a rookie - so be it. If that is a grizzled vet - even better because what he lacks in talent he will generally make up for in knowing what to do when.

I get that people expect high first rounders to start these days. But just because fans expect it, doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do in all situations and it definitely doesn't tell the future of a rookie's career.

 

[iced]

"Didn't start" but certainly played a significant amount - Calvin had 4 catches for 70 yards.

Not exactly the same thing as "Robinson not starting" if he doesn't see the field.. Unless lineman have sub-packages now

If teams did use sub-packages for Olinemen would that have made Robinson a better selection? If the Rams used Greg Robinson a few times on tackle eligible plays, goal line stands (offensively & defensively), and special teams would that make things better

How is saying Calvin Johnson doesn't start but if he's on the field for at least 40% of the snaps even remotely the same thing if Robinson sits on the bench the whole game?

True. Means nothing regarding the points already made, but true.

you were trying to make it sound like watkins wouldn't pose a threat here - yet the team got rid of a receiver who has been consistently better than what we had...speaks for itself

 

[RamFan503]

I think you're taking this a little too seriously.

Maybe so - you can avoid that by using blue font if you are joking. If you were serious and still think I am taking it too seriously then I'm done and you know where I stand.