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Dunbar arrested?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by theramsruleUK, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. LoyalRam Active Member

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    I won't say anymore CoachO..we disagree and that's ok.....The short fuse is in part from his letting down the fanbase and the team when he got suspended before, and they released him for it..Then he was given another chance, and now his name is on the police blotter in South Beach...It's not this incident alone...
     
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  2. RhodyRams Well-Known Member

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    Herman Edwards once said " nothing good ever happens after midnight"
     
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  3. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    WE can disagree. but he was released for salary cap reasons. He wasn't going to count against the roster limit, and they all but said they had every intent on re-signing him as soon as the suspension was up. But by releasing him, his contract was voided, and he had to sign a new deal, at a much lesser value when he came back.

    So, I guess we can assume, if Stedman Bailey were to do something at a later date, you would hold him as accountable as Dunbar? Or is it because he is young (or a fan favorite) he gets the benefit of the doubt?
     
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    Here's to being a pro!!
     
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  5. LoyalRam Active Member

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    C'mon, you don't think that Fisher treated Dunbar more harshly for letting down the tream?..I remember Fisher saying that he had done precisely that, he let down his team (Dunbar). I am sure that it made it easier
    to cut him, don't you agree? I like Bailey, but he let us down too..so whatever the Front Office goes with...I am consistent about this, please don't infer that I'm a hypocrite to prove a point
     
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  6. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    I am sure he was making an example of him, (how does that seem to be working), but they only released him because it was advantageous from a salary cap standpoint.

    So I guess you anticipate them releasing Bailey now, after camp to make an example out of him too? I don't because they know someone will sign him in a heartbeat.
     
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  7. RamBill Well-Known Member

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    Dunbar's arrest could create opportunity
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/131971/dunbars-arrest-could-create-opportunity

    For the second consecutive season, St. Louis Rams linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar has made headlines for the wrong reasons near the start of training camp.

    Reports from the Associated Press indicate that Dunbar was involved in a fight outside a Miami nightclub early Sunday morning. Dunbar got into an altercation with NBA free-agent forward Donte Greene outside Dream Nightclub, according to Miami Beach Police Detective Vivian Thayer. Thayer said both men were arrested and will face charges of battery and disorderly conduct.

    Dunbar
    With further details unavailable at this time, this could be nothing deeper than a fight between a couple of athletes. But in Dunbar's case, it's not this incident that is alarming so much as the unsightly pattern that has begun to form when it comes to him and off-field incidents near the start of training camp.

    The Rams have seemingly made it through the scariest part of the offseason without any serious issues, and while a fight doesn't really qualify, it does add another negative mark on Dunbar's record as the team opens camp this week.

    Last year, Dunbar entered camp as a presumptive starter at outside linebacker, but those plans took a U-turn when the NFL suspended him four games for violation of its policy against performance-enhancing substances. A clearly irritated coach Jeff Fisher made it clear he was unhappy with Dunbar, and instead of keeping him on the roster during the suspension, the Rams released him and signed veteran linebacker Will Witherspoon.

    Dunbar re-signed for the rest of the 2013 season after serving the suspension but came back to reduced snaps with Alec Ogletree handling three-down duty alongside James Laurinaitis. Dunbar finished with 39 tackles in 12 games and 10 starts.

    Despite the underwhelming season, in March the Rams brought Dunbar back on a two-year deal worth up to $3.5 million with hopes that reuniting him with defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who coached Dunbar in New Orleans, could get him back on track.

    While more information needs to be gathered and the legal process still has to play out, Dunbar is obviously not doing himself any favors as he attempts to hold down the starting job opposite Ogletree. As it stands, Dunbar is projected to remain the starter, but second-year linebacker Ray-Ray Armstrong has impressed coaches enough to get more opportunities to contribute and was already poised to push for an expanded role in 2014.

    Whether or not Dunbar faces any further punishment from the team or the league, it's fair to wonder if Armstrong could now get an even closer look when camp opens.
     
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  8. LoyalRam Active Member

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    It's not working, only because he's (Dunbar) not the brightest bulb in the pack...I anticipate nothing... that's your rant about what you believe I'm expecting.
     
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  9. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    I'm not ranting, trust me. I am just trying to have a dialogue of what is obviously differing opinions of this story. My whole point is simple. These sort of stories tend to be over blown, and people have knee jerk reactions.

    Hypothetically speaking, if this story had not been made public for another 2 weeks, and they were in the middle of camp, and Dunbar was participating and showing he has regained his 2102 form, do you honestly believe that there would be this sort of reaction?
     
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  10. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    Yes.

    Just because he's performing well in training camp doesn't mean taking PED's and then a year later getting arrested is no big deal. When a guy begins to cause trouble, more than once, it becomes a concern for the football team and he may not need to be part of this football team.

    Let me ask you this.. If sometime in the near future, say later this season or next season, he gets another PED suspension or another off the field issue.. where do you stand then?
     
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  11. LoyalRam Active Member

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    #1...I don't think the incident would have happened during camp, because it seems this 29 yr old man needs structure not to screw up.
    #2..If the incident happened as it did, but the story was more fully developed, I still would think "Why did you put yourseld in this situation?"..But as I said, if the law says he did nothing wrong, then I'm good.
    #3..Knee jerk? Maybe....But the worry after one suspension, and then that guy gets arrested when not closely watched by the Team....Many fan's impulses would be "Oh no, not another %uck &P!"
     
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  12. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    Lol right?
     
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  13. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    If THIS story was about PEDs, I wold be in the front of the line saying cut bait. But its not.

    And lest you forget..... Kenny Britt, Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Maurice Alexander, Stedman Bailey, Ray Ray Armstrong, Greg Reid just to mention a few of the players on THIS roster who have previous "trouble" of one kind or another.
     
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    The position may not have proven depth, but it does have a lot of talent, though. Armstrong, Daren Bates, Phillip Steward, and Tavarius Wilson have all caught my eye as players to watch.
     
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  15. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say it happened WHILE in camp, I said it wasn't reported for another 2 weeks, while they were in camp. I am not trying to give him a pass. I agree with you on that it probably isn't the smartest choice. But I am not going to act as if this is some hideous act, that should result in him being lambasted and run out of town, which many seem to be saying. (not you, but others have)
     
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  16. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    Ladies and gentlemen!
    In the Red corner....fighting out of Baltimore county Maryland....
    6' 11" weighing in at 226 lbs...Donte Greeeeeeeen....!
    [​IMG]

    And his challenger in the blue corner....hailing out of Syracuse New York...
    6 feet tall 226 lbs...Jo...Lon...Dunnnnnbarrrrrrr.....!
    [​IMG]

    LLLLLLLLLLLets get ready to Rumble.....!!!!
     
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  17. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    Dunbar is the stronger of the two, and would be hard for Greene to locate if Dunbar stays in close and goes to the body. Greene will drop his hands and try to land a helicopter blow that could give Dunbar the opening he needs to put Greene down.

    Greene has a significant height and reach advantage, so he'd be better off keeping Dunbar at bay with a consistent jab. If patient with his shots he could end it quickly.

    I'm going with Dunbar in two.
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Dodgersrf Well-Known Member

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    It's a fight.
    He didn't kill, rob or sexual assault anyone.
     
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    Boxing or MMA?
     
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  20. LoyalRam Active Member

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    A diamond ring makes the wife happy..
    ~Kobe Bryant
     
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