Drake Stoops

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LOURam85

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That's fair. Atwell does have utility with his speed, and it's true that we could see him play, particularly if Kupp continues to decline or if - fate forbid - someone gets hurt, but if he's a sweetener to get someone like Courtland Sutton at a reasonable price? A true X receiver? I think it's worth that risk.
I think if atwell get with the right team he will be really productive
 

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I'm not sure. The Broncos have a lot of receivers. They signed Josh Reynolds and Lil"Jordan Humphrey this year, drafted Troy Franklin and Devaughn Vele this year, drafted Marvin Mims last year, and they still have Tim Patrick rehabbing. There's a lot of smoke. Maybe no fire, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sutton was on the move later in the season.



Got your list, and I don't disagree with the guarantees. Bolded are whom I think make the immediate roster; italics and underlines are whom I think make at least practice squad; strike-throughs are whom I think either lose their job in training camp or later in the season.

Xavier Smith has a very real possibility to win the punt return and kick return jobs. He's absolutely electric, small (5'9", 174 lbs.), but he's a tough son of a bitch to hit and take down. The problem I have is that he'll be twenty-eight in September, and, of course, because he's small. I just don't see it. If someone's taking Atwell's job (a possibility via trade), it'll be a veteran, not a practice squad player.

Whittington is my guy. I bet he makes this team, and he'll be great. I have so much faith in this kid, it's not even funny; he will work on special teams, get a couple of snaps on the wide receiver corps, run-block, do all of the dirty work, maybe even return punts and kicks.

I see him taking Skowronek's spot (cost-wise, it'll cost a lot more to keep Skow than a rookie, unless he signs an extremely team-friendly deal.) This is coming from me, who loves her some Benny Skow, loves his special teams, loves his versatility...but Whittington brings versatility and teams as well at a lower cost, and with more potential.

Tyler Johnson is a solid backup, and he'll only be twenty-six in August. Fantastic hands. He's your immediate backup to Kupp and Nacua and Robinson. Will do a lot of dirty work, will play on teams as well.

Atwell, I bet, makes the immediate roster...but I bet he ends up on the Van Jefferson/Cam Akers path where he goes for a trade swap or as a tiny piece to a bigger trade. He has something nobody else on our roster has, but he's just so damn small, and he doesn't do any teams. He needs to really ball out this year - and I mean "ball-out" by taking Robinson's job - to stay. That's my prediction.

I don't see what y'all see in Stoops. Yes, he's sudden and twitchy, but so was Nelson Spruce. I don't see Amendola, I'm sorry. I see Spruce. He got force-fed the ball a lot at Oklahoma last year because their receiving corps sucked. Could he prove me wrong? Easily. But I see more of Spruce than Amendola in Stoops.

I see it in Wiglusz, though. He's not sudden, but incredibly smooth, and I wouldn't bet against him because he did so much teams at Ohio State as a walk-on no star recruit not promised anything (unlike Stoops. who - along with his brother, Isaac - got preferred walk-on status), run-blocked, did everything without complaint. And then he went to Ohio, balled out his senior year, got injured in his graduate year, played through it, didn't have as good a year. He still made the MAC First Team. He's bigger and faster than Stoops as well. Not as twitchy, but definitely more talented, and more experienced on teams. I think he's the kind of player McVay wants on this team. I don't think he's going to make the active roster, but the practice squad? Absolutely, I think he has a chance.

As for Laap? Not a lot of tape; he played in Division III. But he dominated the level, and honestly, it wasn't even close. Those were video game statistics he had. I want to see what he can do against better players, and I bet he makes the practice squad.

That's just my thoughts, and I'm likely wrong, per usual, lawl.
There’s no way he doesn’t make this team without trading for more speed
 

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I for one am excited to see Stoops in action in our system

'While Stoops may lack prototypical size and speed in the slot, checking in at 5-foot-10 with a modest 4.67-second 40-yard dash, his short-area quickness and ability to get open makes him stand out at the position. At Oklahoma's Pro Day last month, Stoops excelled in agility testing and position drills. His 4.25-second 20-yard shuttle and 7.01-second 3-cone drill would have both been top-10 among wide receivers at the NFL Combine; his short-shuttle time would have ranked seventh among the group, while his 3-cone time would have ranked eighth'

"When you put on the tape or watch me, I have good football speed," Stoops said after Pro Day. "I show good speed there, which I think matters the most."

'Stoops has tried to model himself after other slot receivers with similarly slight builds who may have been overlooked but made their way to the NFL nonetheless—guys like Hunter Renfrow (a fifth-round pick in 2019), Danny Amendola (an undrafted free agent) and Julian Edelman (a seventh-round pick in 2009). His testing numbers also compared favorably to those of former Texas Tech wide receiver Wes Welker, who went undrafted in 2004 before playing a dozen years in the league'

"At the end of the day," Stoops said last month, "all I need is an opportunity."

 

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I for one am excited to see Stoops in action in our system
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Facts Tutu is fast can run routes and isn’t scared …. He should be more involved in offense
Tutu is so limited. He has to be schemed to get a free release and has to remain untouched to stay on his route and be on time. It doesn't take much to move him. There were touches to be had, but Atwell was not getting it done. Those touches eventually went to DeMarcus Robinson. Tutu lost his snaps to an NFL journeyman who has had a middlin career.
I think if atwell get with the right team he will be really productive
At this point I would have thought that any hopes and dreams for Tutu faded with the lack of production. He was a second round pick. Don't you think McVay wanted to or tried to make it work? He is simply too short and slight to be very effective at the NFL level.
 

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I think if atwell get with the right team he will be really productive

There’s no way he doesn’t make this team without trading for more speed

Tutu is so limited. He has to be schemed to get a free release and has to remain untouched to stay on his route and be on time. It doesn't take much to move him. There were touches to be had, but Atwell was not getting it done. Those touches eventually went to DeMarcus Robinson. Tutu lost his snaps to an NFL journeyman who has had a middlin career.

At this point I would have thought that any hopes and dreams for Tutu faded with the lack of production. He was a second round pick. Don't you think McVay wanted to or tried to make it work? He is simply too short and slight to be very effective at the NFL level.

100% Tutu has to be schemed open. He doesn't have Kupps or Pukas natural feel for the defense open zone or weak spots.

The classic of only relying on your god given talent that worked in college doesn't work in the Pros.

He's a one trick pony and teams know that.

Plus he's tiny asf and not very good at learning/taking on new concepts which limits his usefulness. Whittington could be his doom if he stays healthy.
 

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In his (Stoops) last 5 games . . .

targeted 57 times, caught 44 (77%)
568 yards and 5 TDs

If he'd done that over 15 games (say at Washington with Penix at Q
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. . . he would have had 1700 yards and 15 TDs

When you look at production numbers, Stoops and Roman Wilson are very close.
Just don't look at athleticism numbers because Stoops is way behind.

He is a very interesting WR prospect.
He will start low on the WR depth chart, but who knows?
 

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Tutu is so limited. He has to be schemed to get a free release and has to remain untouched to stay on his route and be on time. It doesn't take much to move him. There were touches to be had, but Atwell was not getting it done. Those touches eventually went to DeMarcus Robinson. Tutu lost his snaps to an NFL journeyman who has had a middlin career.

At this point I would have thought that any hopes and dreams for Tutu faded with the lack of production. He was a second round pick. Don't you think McVay wanted to or tried to make it work? He is simply too short and slight to be very effective at the NFL level.
A strong breeze blows Tutu off his routes.

I was trying to find a picture of a person being thrown around from a strong wind and this came up?

I have to say - I didn't mind it.


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Marilyn monroeA strong breeze blows Tutu off his routes.

I was trying to find a picture of a person being thrown around from a strong wind and this came up?

I have to say - I didn't mind it.


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marilyn monroe old hollywood GIF by Julie Winegard
 

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In his (Stoops) last 5 games . . .

targeted 57 times, caught 44 (77%)
568 yards and 5 TDs

If he'd done that over 15 games (say at Washington with Penix at Q
cool smiley
. . .
. . . he would have had 1700 yards and 15 TDs

When you look at production numbers, Stoops and Roman Wilson are very close.
Just don't look at athleticism numbers because Stoops is way behind.

He is a very interesting WR prospect.
He will start low on the WR depth chart, but who knows?
His film shows a McVay type weapon. Very quick. Instinctive. Just a bit small.

Again if I'm his agent I am telling him to win that returns job and maybe Tutu's snaps and roster spot will come with it. Because that is the spot to gun for. Tutu's lack of teams contribution and lack of instincts in the pattern makes him vulnerable.