Draft trades that make sense

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With a crafty trade, the Texans could emerge with Johnny Manziel and Jadeveon Clowney.

Draft-night trades take place every year, and there surely will be a handful in the 2014 draft that shake up the first few rounds. Predicting where they will take place can be very difficult, but for the purposes of this article, I've come up with some potential deals that would make sense and serve both trade parties well.

Here are four draft trades that I'd like to see on May 8:

Houston Texans trade the No. 33 and No. 65 picks to the Kansas City Chiefs for the No. 23 and No. 124 picks

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The Texans are in a unique position. Defensive endJadeveon Clowney is the best prospect in the NFL draft, yet they already have the best defensive lineman in the NFL in J.J. Watt. Houston is in dire need of a quarterback, and an ideal situation for them would be to move down from No. 1, add some picks and get their quarterback a little further down in the order.

However, in the absence of a lucrative trade offer for the top overall pick, the Texans should draft Clowney at No. 1 and then look to trade back into the first round by offering their picks at the top of the second and third rounds so that they can grab the QB they are looking for inTeddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel or Derek Carr (assuming Blake Bortles is off the board by this point). They'd come away with the best player in the draft and their quarterback of the future. It's hard to beat that in terms of draft impact.

For the Chiefs, the move would allow them to sleep on the draft for a night and make the first pick on Day 2 (a valuable selection to have) while adding the first pick in the third round to help make up for the second-rounder they gave up to the 49ers in last year's Alex Smith trade. That makes it a good deal for them as well.

Cleveland Browns trade the No. 26, No. 71 and No. 83 picks to the St. Louis Rams for the No. 13 pick

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The Browns head into the draft with a lot of picks (two selections apiece in the first, third and fourth rounds of the 2014 draft, giving them seven total selections in the first four rounds) and a roster that already has talent at key positions, including CB Joe Haden, OT Joe Thomas, TE Jordan Cameron and WR Josh Gordon. Getting quality out of their picks is going to be more important than quantity, which is why I think they should be aggressive in packaging their picks to move up.

Cleveland could take one of the top players with the fourth overall pick -- possibly Clemson receiver Sammy Watkins -- and then look to grab their QB of choice at No. 13 rather than reaching for one at No. 4.

The Rams have been aggressive in the draft over the past couple seasons, all from the draft picks originally acquired from the Washington Redskins for the No. 2 overall pick in 2012, which the Redskins used to draft Robert Griffin III. With this year's No. 2 pick in hand from that trade, it gives the Rams some flexibility with their No. 13 pick to add even more talented players to their roster. The 13th pick is a prime spot for the Rams to consider moving back in this draft, with QB-needy teams such as the Browns looking to move up. In this potential deal, the Rams should then look to deal one of the newly acquired third-rounders for a 2015 second-round pick, giving them draft power in another draft class. With the No. 2 overall selection and their other picks joining a talented roster, the Rams should be in a position to not only compete in the NFC West, they should have a chance to win it.

Carolina Panthers trade the No. 28 and No. 92 picks to the Green Bay Packers for the No. 21 pick

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The Panthers enter the draft with pressing needs on the offensive line and at wide receiver, but coming off a strong 2013 campaign, they are drafting 28th overall, which isn't a good spot to be in when you're looking to land a top-level prospect at either position. Carolina made good use of its draft picks last year on defense inStar Lotulelei and Kawann Short, so it can afford to be aggressive in giving up an extra pick to get an impact player on offense. I think they would be targeting Notre Dame tackle Zack Martin or Tennessee tackle Ja'Wuan James, although a receiver would be a possibility as well.

For the Packers, this move would only require them to move down a few slots and take the best player available or fill a need while adding an extra third-round pick in a deep draft that should still offer plenty of value at that point.

San Francisco 49ers trade the No. 30 and No. 56 picks to the Baltimore Ravens for the No. 17 pick

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The Niners are in prime position to trade up in the 2014 draft. They already have a very physical football team on both offense and defense, but the area they might be looking to upgrade is a vertical threat at wide receiver who can also be an impact return man on special teams. The offense has an athletic quarterback in Colin Kaepernick and tight end in Vernon Davis, a tough runner in Frank Gore and bigger-bodied receivers such as Anquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree, and adding a legit vertical threat would create 16 regular-season headaches for opposing defensive coordinators.

They aren't likely to find that guy with the 30th pick, but there should be some appealing options at No. 17. A guy like Oregon State's Brandin Cooks or LSU's Odell Beckham Jr. would transform a very good offense into an explosive one.

For the Ravens, this would give them the opportunity to add a second-round pick in a really deep draft, and they can still get a very good player with the 30th overall pick. General manager Ozzie Newsome has done a great job at finding value outside of the top few picks in the draft -- Ray Lewis, Todd Heap, Ed Reed and Jimmy Smith are some notable examples -- which is another reason for them to feel good about moving back in this scenario.
 

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I'd be happy with that trade if we get one of the top OTs with our first pick.
 

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I honestly think trading the 13th pick is more likely than trading the 2nd.
 

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I honestly think trading the 13th pick is more likely than trading the 2nd.

I agree with that.

I honestly don't have a problem with drafting Watkins at #2 if the offers suck. The potential drop off is steep compared to #13.
 

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I agree with that.

I honestly don't have a problem with drafting Watkins at #2 if the offers suck. The potential drop off is steep compared to #13.

I'd rather take Matthews or Robinson (personally I lean Matthews) especially if we plan on trading down from 13.
 

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I would trade my left nut for the draft to happen this weekend...is that considered making sense?
 

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I'd rather take Matthews or Robinson (personally I lean Matthews) especially if we plan on trading down from 13.

I flip-flopped to the Robinson camp myself a while back. The thing is I don't think our OL is that bad to warrant a pick higher than 13. There will be studs in the second round that will fill in at LG just fine. In fact, if Jones can step in and play up to his potential then we have no vacancy. We need depth at OT and OG, but we certainly don't have to pass on Warkins or Clowney to do it. I don't see Fisher changing his philosophy on high pick OL'man, either.
 

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I flip-flopped to the Robinson camp myself a while back. The thing is I don't think our OL is that bad to warrant a pick higher than 13. There will be studs in the second round that will fill in at LG just fine. In fact, if Jones can step in and play up to his potential then we have no vacancy. We need depth at OT and OG, but we certainly don't have to pass on Warkins or Clowney to do it. I don't see Fisher changing his philosophy on high pick OL'man, either.

e dont need depth we starting material and thats Robinson and Matthews. the only way i see Watkins a ram is if we trademdown and hes still there no way we take him at 2. either Clowney if hes there or Robinson or Matthews . Cant keep neglecting the line.
 

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I flip-flopped to the Robinson camp myself a while back. The thing is I don't think our OL is that bad to warrant a pick higher than 13. There will be studs in the second round that will fill in at LG just fine. In fact, if Jones can step in and play up to his potential then we have no vacancy. We need depth at OT and OG, but we certainly don't have to pass on Warkins or Clowney to do it. I don't see Fisher changing his philosophy on high pick OL'man, either.

With Matthews I like the fact that he can also play tackle, meaning we have a player who can play RT when Barksdale goes. As much as I liked his game last year, I'm not convinced that's what he's going to bring long term, so drafting Matthews means we have a replacement there. It also gives us flexibility if there's injuries, because we have three players capable of playing LT at a high level (Long, Saffold, and Matthews). So if Jones is ready to play this year or next year (replacing Wells) we then have Long-LG-Jones-Saffold-Matthews, and I like that line. The more long term blue chip players in front of Sam the better.

I also think that Matthews is the most pro-ready lineman in the draft, and although his upside may be a little less than someone like Robinson, there's far less chance of a bust. Frankly I'm nervous about taking project players on the line, they haven't exactly worked out for us lately.

As for passing on a receiver or Clowney, although Clowney would be nice, we certainly don't need him. And if we want a receiver that bad (even though the depth is good) I think we could move up two or three spots from 13 and take Evans at 10 or 11. Depending on what other teams do. I like Evans more than Watkins because of how corners are growing, we need big physical guys to beat up on the big physical corners in our division, and Evans does that better than Watkins. We have shifty smaller guys already (Bailey, Austin, Givens) we need big guys who can be a vertical threat. Quick, Cook, Evans, Austin/Bailey, Stacey in the redzone is a really difficult package to defend, harder than that group with Watkins instead of Evans in my opinion.

Honestly though, i don't think we draft either of the top receivers, I do think we draft one of the top linemen. Then again I never know what the hell Snead is thinking during the draft time, all I know is at the end I like it.
 

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e dont need depth we starting material and thats Robinson and Matthews. the only way i see Watkins a ram is if we trademdown and hes still there no way we take him at 2. either Clowney if hes there or Robinson or Matthews . Cant keep neglecting the line.

I agree to disagree, friend.
 

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I say no to that trade proposal and counter with this;

Browns give #26, #71, plus 1st round pick in 2015 for rams #13, 6th round, 7th round pick in 2014 plus a 4th round pick in 2015.
 

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I really think in different way.I would like we traded down having 4 picks in the first two rounds.We really have the possibility drafting good prospects for our holes just with the first 4 picks (in the first two round with the 6th or a bit worse,13th,37th or a bit worse and 44th).Without downgrading more than this becouse later is difficoult finding what we need with the name we would like to call.I think we don't need so many picks as we have got in this moment in the last rounds.Snead should be so good to exchange our last picks with something better in the middle round.Don't forget if somebody is interested in 2nd overall picks we could ask them some 2015 picks too with a second round pick 2014.The situation would be very different is nobody is interested in our first pick (2nd overall).I really think there would be the necessity to trade up just having another picks in the 2nd round.4 good picks in the first 2 round and the game is over for the opponents ... The confidence is my life's salt ... Go Rams! HGR!