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Developmental league has support, no launch plan

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by -X-, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. flv

    flv Well-Known Member

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    I'd also like to see a North American only developmental league. The NFL was slow to understand the mistakes it was making with NFLE. Hopefully there are smarter people in place with better plans. NFL Owners pulled the plug on NFLE because any any increase in the quality of the NFL, (rewarded by increased tv revenue for the NFL), was proportionally absorbed by the NFLPA who didn't pay for the developmental league costs. I still don't see why NFL players would want to fund such a league which is almost certain to run at a financial loss.
  2. dieterbrock

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    I dont disagree, as long as the staple cities, and cities that draw well get teams.
    But NYC has 2 NFL teams, (even though neither plays in NYC, or NY for that matter) only one needed.
    Would love to see a team play in Tuscaloosa, Lincoln or Norman. Teams that draw huge #'s for college ought to have a shot
  3. LesBaker

    LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    The NFL can get TV contracts and sponsors here in the US that they probably couldn't get in Europe. Plus the cost of almost everything is lower, especially gas/travel. They could make it profitable. The cost of buying in could add to the pot too. It would be a money maker. With todays technology they could have their own stations and ad revenue, or even stream the games online.
  4. dieterbrock

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    "One major caveat would be the status of the players. Would they be NFL Players Association members? What sort of medical coverage would they have? What would their salaries be?"

    I think in light of the "Player Safety" issues that have been pushed to the forefront, this is much bigger issue than just a caveat.
    Cant imagine a new league would want to carry that burden.
  5. FRO

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    Here are 10 cities without an NFL franchise that I would put developmental teams in:
    LA
    Toronto
    Las Vegas
    San Antonio
    Portland
    Oklahoma City
    Birmingham
    Salt Lake City
    Omaha
    Columbus
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    Fisher in favor of developmental league
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/9122/fisher-in-favor-of-developmental-league

    EARTH CITY, Mo. -- Discussions of the NFL adding a developmental league for the many young players, coaches, officials and executives who can't get their foot in the door have picked up steam recently.

    Troy Vincent, the NFL's head of operations, first mentioned the idea of bringing back a proving grounds for the league to develop young talent in April. According to a report from The Associated Press, enthusiasm for such a project quickly gathered steam.

    That excitement was quickly endorsed by St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher late last week.

    "I’m absolutely, 100 percent in favor of something like that, yes," Fisher said.

    It's no surprise that any coach would approve of the idea of adding a place for young players, coaches and others to gain valuable experience. As it stands, teams only have eight-man practice squads as a method for retaining young players they like and even that doesn't come with any guarantees. Other teams can sign players from practice squads at any time so long as they place them on their active 53-man rosters.

    Theoretically, a team can invest multiple years in a practice squad player only to see another team poach him after the original team put in the work to bring him along.

    A developmental league could offer a place not only where teams can safely stash their own prospects but with the added benefit of giving those players regular repetitions in practice and even some actual game experience.

    While Fisher's opinion is undoubtedly shared by other coaches, his words are also of a little more value than many coaches because of his longstanding connections to the league as a member of the competition committee.

    Asked whether he sees a developmental league coming to fruition, Fisher offered further explanation of its value.

    "There’s been discussions over the last couple years," Fisher said. "I don’t know what direction it’s going, but I think we have a need for it. I think it would be beneficial from a young players’ standpoint. It would be beneficial to go outside if you have to make an outside roster move to get somebody that’s in shape that you can evaluate on film. In addition to that, it would be extremely beneficial for the officiating department, and coaching for that matter."
  7. RhodyRams

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    Thats alot of traveling, which would incur alot of expenses for the teams
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  8. FRO

    FRO Well-Known Member

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    What do you propose?
  9. RhodyRams

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    well considering how big football is in Texas and the size and quality of the stadiums they have for High School football there, I would put 3 or 4 teams right in Texas and then scatter a few more teams in Oklahoma Arizona etc
  10. FRO

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    West:
    Boise
    Las Vegas
    Los Angles
    Portland

    South:
    Birmingham
    Little Rock
    Oklahoma City
    San Antonio

    North:
    Des Moines
    Omaha
    Salt Lake City
    Wichita

    East:
    Columbus
    Louisville
    Montreal
    Toronto

    Ok here is how I break it down. The NFC and AFC west teams can designate players to the development team west division. For example the Rams and Chiefs could combine and use one team. Oakland and the 49ers could use another, so on and so forth. In the development league there is a 8 game season with teams only playing division games. There is a 4 team playoff with division winners as the participants. Geographically these teams are reasonable close which lowers travel cost.

    That's just my idea. You can either broadcast on the network, however I think you would be able to sell the tv rights.
  11. OnceARam

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    And in non-related news the NFL will be launching a new program called "keep kids in school through their senior season (unless they are given a top 3 round grade)".
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    Fro I know you put a lot of thought in there but how do have 2 teams in Canada but none in NYC area?
  13. FRO

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    I wanted to use cities without NFL teams.
  14. FRO

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    Just think of how much a raw guy like Brian Quick could have used a development league. Or Isaiah Pead. Think how beneficial the league would have been to Barrett Jones, or even a TJ Moe. I think for a football nerd like me, seeing the bottom of our roster play would be fun to watch.
  15. dieterbrock

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    Ok. How about New York City
  16. flv

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    Remembering how things were with NFLE the positions that were helped were QB, WR, OL, & CB. The lack of a pre-season prevented anything complex on either side of the ball. I'd suggest a 3 division league with 4 teams in each division. You play each divisional opponent twice and 2 opponents from each other division. the 3 division winners and 1 wild-card team progress. The #1 seed hosts the wild-card team and #2 hosts #3. The top remaining seed hosts the Bowl game. 10 regular season rounds with 2 playoff rounds, a total of 63 games. It'll probably start smaller with 3 divisions of 3 teams. Each team plays its 2 divisional rivals twice and every other team once.
  17. Yamahopper

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    I'm all for it. I think it should be modeled after the AZ. fall league in baseball. Several NFL teams supplying players for a D. team. Teams can buy the roster spots on other teams also. But to be really beneficial it has to run during the NFL season so players can be called up to the NFL. Running it in the spring is a waste of time, all it does is skirt the offseason rules that limit the amount a time a team can force a player to work. Do they want some young player to end up playing 20 something games in 9 months?
    This will be all well and good till up and coming players start getting concussed or blowing ACL's and are no use to a team for another year.
    A D league should have been in place 20 years ago.