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The one that will be interesting is if Mack gets done before Donald. Those two will have similar deals.
 

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without a good defense....Carr will have to win games by himself in a couple years...
 

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Carr is my keeper this year in Fantasy, he must exceed expectations.
 

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Whoa.

Being a starting QB, I guess they really didn't have a choice... but is he really at that level?
 

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Whoa.

Being a starting QB, I guess they really didn't have a choice... but is he really at that level?

Yeah man, 3000+ yards every year. Just a shade under 4000 yards last year. 81 TDs to 31 INTs so far.

The dude breaks his leg and his team TANKS in the playoffs.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/22/derek-carr-gets-40-million-guaranteed-at-signing/

The Raiders and quarterback Derek Carr have agreed to a five-year extension that is worth up to $125 million over the life of the deal.

As any longtime follower of NFL contracts is well aware, however, the details of how the deal is structured in terms of guaranteed money provides a fuller view of how much money a player will see over the life of the contract.

According to multiple reports, Carr’s deal gives him $40 million in fully guaranteed money at the time of signing. There are reportedly $70 million in total guarantees, but it’s not clear how those are structured.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/22/looking-at-the-coming-waves-of-quarterback-deals/

Looking at the coming waves of quarterback deals
Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2017

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When it comes to quarterback contracts, the player’s circumstances tend to have much more relevance to the final numbers than the broader market at the position. On Thursday, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr combined his status as a second-round pick entering the fourth and final year of his contract along with a clear message that he’s willing to do the franchise-tag dance into a long-term contract that nudges the bar a little higher than Colts quarterback Andrew Luck did a year ago.

As each franchise quarterback signs, attention turns to the next wave. Or two. Or three. Here’s a look at each of the foreseeable waves of major quarterback deals.

1. The Next Wave.

Kirk Cousins.

The twice-tagged Washington quarterback will either sign a long-term deal by July 17 or posture himself for one of several options in 2018: (1) a long-term contract with Washington signed after the season ends; (2) the transition tag of $28.7 million; (3) the franchise tag of $34.47 million; or (4) a shot at the open market, either with an offer sheet under the transition tag or as an unrestricted free agent.

His risks of letting it ride for a third straight year are simple and clear — serious injury or complete and total ineffectiveness. Either way, he will have made $44 million over two years, and at a minimum someone will pay him $5 million or so to serve as a backup in 2018, if for some reason he badly regresses this season.

What he’d make on the open market remains to be seen. The 49ers are believed to be interested, given the presence of former Washington offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. But the Rams have hired the coordinator who helped Cousins throw for more than 4,900 yards in 2016.

If head coach Sean McVay decides that he both wants Cousins and hopes to keep him from Shanahan, Cousins could be in position to sit back and allow the NFC West rivals to bid the package higher and higher.

Matthew Stafford.

Stafford has a $16.5 million salary in 2017, the last year of the extension he signed with two years left on his rookie deal. With a 2017 cap number of $22 million, his franchise tender for 2018 would be $26.4 million. For 2019, it would move to $31.68 million. That’s a bare minimum of $74.58 million to be paid out over the next three years, and thus the starting point for another extension.

Bottom line? He could (should) soon eclipse Carr as the highest paid player in NFL history.

Jimmy Garoppolo.

A second-round pick from 2014 (like Carr), Garoppolo has been the subject of plenty of speculation regarding trades, franchise tags, and bridge deals aimed at paying him a lot of money to wait behind Tom Brady. For now, coach Bill Belichick merely wants to keep Garoppolo in place as insurance against a Brady injury. Come 2018, a decision will need to be made.

Some believe that Brady could retire after winning a sixth Super Bowl, especially since his wife seems to be steadily nudging him to walk off into the sunset. If that happens, the Patriots would then have a limited window for negotiating a long-term Garoppolo deal, with the franchise tag as the fallback against Garoppolo hitting the market.

The real question is whether the tag also would be the starting point on a long-term quarterback. For most quarterbacks, it is. But Garoppolo: (1) plays for the Patriots; and (2) is represented by Don Yee, the agent who has signed off on multiple below-market Tom Brady deals.

Some think the Patriots will be able to get Garoppolo to take less than top dollar, like Brady has done. Others think Yee is determined to do with Garoppolo that which Brady refused to ever do.

If Brady refuses to retire after 2017 (and if the Patriots choose to keep him in place as a 41-year-old starter in 2018), they could tag and trade Garoppolo (see Matt Cassel), keep him under the tag for a year, sign Garoppolo to a short-term deal aimed at keeping him in place to take over for Brady, or let Garoppolo hit the open market and enhance their haul of compensatory draft picks in 2019.

Drew Brees.

Brees has one year left under contract, and a clause prohibiting the team from using the franchise tag to keep him in place the following year. Whether he stays or goes, Brees will count for a minimum of $18 million under the New Orleans salary cap next year.

He has said he won’t extend the deal, which means he’ll either sign with the Saints after the 2017 season ends and before the launch of free agency or he’ll become an unrestricted free agent, like he did more than 11 years ago.

So what is a 39-year-old franchise quarterback worth on the open market? We could find out within nine months.

Sam Bradford.

Yes, Sam Bradford. The last No. 1 overall pick of the pre-rookie wage scale era, who made $78 million on his first six-year deal and enters the final season of the two-year, $36 million contract signed in Philadelphia last year. Now the starter in Minnesota, the Vikings can pay him a lot of money now or even more later, if forced to use the franchise tag to keep him in place.

The wildcard as to Bradford is Teddy Bridgewater. The Vikings could end up choosing to keep him instead, if he recovers sufficiently from the devastating knee injury that compelled the Vikings to trade for Bradford last September.

A.J. McCarron.

Yes, A.J. McCarron. Other teams have been interested in trading for him, but the Bengals have wanted too much for the man who nearly helped Cincinnati nail down the No. 2 seed — and who did everything in his power to win a 2015 wild-card game against the Steelers — after Andy Dalton broke his thumb. Will someone break the bank for McCarron? He’s due to become an unrestricted free agent in March.

2. The Second Wave.

Matt Ryan.

The Falcons quarterback has two years remaining on his current deal, with a 2018 cap number of $21.65 million. This means that he’d make $25.98 million, at a minimum, under the franchise tag in 2019. With $35 million in cash due to be paid out over the next two seasons, the Falcons could approach Ryan about trading it in for a long-term deal that puts north of Carr in annual average, or Ryan could wait for the market to keep going up — and in turn for his leverage to increase.

However it plays out, another major payday is coming for Ryan. There’s currently no reason to think Ryan will push it to the brink and force the Falcons to play the franchise-tag dance.

Jameis Winston.

Winston won’t approach free agency or the franchise tag until after the 2019 season, but he’ll be eligible for a second contract after 2017 . Given that the Buccaneers have never (never) given a second contract to any quarterback the franchise drafted, they may want to make a statement by committing to Winston as early as possible — and possibly at a number far lower than it would be if he’s closer to the franchise tag.

Marcus Mariota.

Mariota, the second pick in the same year Winston was drafted No. 1 overall, also becomes eligible for a new deal after the 2017 season. The Titans will need to decide whether to move quickly or let it play out a bit, with Mariota under contract through 2019, once they pick up the fifth-year option. The decision could, in theory, hinge on how quickly the Buccaneers extend Winston, and vice-versa.

3. The Third Wave.

Aaron Rodgers.

Some would say Rodgers should be in the first wave. But here’s the rub: He doesn’t seem to be inclined to complain about his current contract, even though he’s woefully underpaid. It’s the Jon Voight Phenomenon; Rodgers did a bad deal, committing himself for seven full seasons in 2013 without accounting for potential spikes in the salary cap. As a result, his aging $22 million-per-year contract doesn’t compare well to new Derek Carr’s $25 million annual deal.

In March, as rumors and reports grew that the Bears would be giving Mike Glennon $15 million or more per year in free agency, Rodgers said as to whether this would compel contract talks for him, “I think it has to.” In response to the PFT item on the issue, Rodgers downplayed the obvious implications of his words and brushed our interpretation off as “#fakenews.”

Interpretation of the reaction to the interpretation? He plans to keep driving the LeBaron once owned by Jon Voight the actor, resisting any and all suggestions that it was actually owned by John Voight the periodontist.

Russell Wilson.

As Wilson entered the last year of his rookie deal in 2015, the Seahawks rewarded Wilson for a pair of Super Bowl appearances (and avoided the franchise-tag dilemma) with a four-year extension worth $21.9 million per year. Wisely, Wilson ensured that he’d get back to the market sooner than later, which likely puts him in line for another extension after the 2018 season, when once again approaches the final year of his current deal in 2019.

Dak Prescott.

The fourth-round phenom becomes eligible for a new deal after the 2018 season, and 2019 will be the fourth and final year of his rookie deal. The Cowboys will need to decide whether to do a top-of-market deal before Prescott approaches the franchise tag, or risk inheriting a Kirk Cousins conundrum. How he plays, and what the team achieves, over the next two years will be critical to answering that question.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/23/derek-carr-wanted-to-leave-money-for-teammates/

Derek Carr wanted to leave money for teammates
Posted by Mike Florio on June 23, 2017

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Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie now wants to sign some of quarterback Derek Carr’s teammates, and Carr wants to be sure McKenzie can.

“The main thing that I could just remember was all along the way, I was like, ‘How do we keep my teammates?’” Carr said at Friday’s press conference regarding his new deal, via Raiders.com. “That’s, I don’t know if it’s weird how it sounds, but that was just what I kept telling him. I was like, ‘OK. that’s cool. Yeah, that’s awesome, wow, cool. Is this good for Gabe [Jackson]?

Is this good for Khalil [Mack]? Is this good for Amari [Cooper]?’ [Reggie] can tell you himself, these are things that I said to him numerous amounts of times. I didn’t want to hurt our team; that’s the last thing I would ever want to do. So, hopefully we didn’t That’s the last thing that I intended to do and that’s kind of why I was so involved.”

Few would call a deal that sets a record for new-money average team friendly, but if Carr had wanted to maximize his earnings he could have followed the Kirk Cousins path to a year-to-year haul that would have resulted in ridiculously high cap numbers, and that ultimately would have forced the Raiders to pay more than $25 million annually.

And while Carr hasn’t quite copied the Tom Bradyplaybook and taken considerably less than market value, Brady’s failure to push the envelope has indeed affected Carr, just as it will affect others. If Brady had decided to pursue maximum dollars, he’d be making more than $30 million per year by now, and other quarterbacks would see their own pay lifted by that dynamic.

It’s a point that former NFL quarterback Brady Quinn made on Friday’s PFT Live, noting that the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.

For Carr, the question now becomes whether his teammates will be as charitable when it’s their turn to get paid, consciously taking less to help the team keep more players or saying, “Screw this. I only have so many years to make big money, and I’m going to.”

With limited years in a playing career, no equity, and likely orthopedic and cognitive problems later in life, players have every right to seek every last dollar, forcing teams to navigate the cap and to make good decisions through the draft, which under the current compensation rules allows teams to load up the roster with young, talented, and cheap labor, year in and year out.
 

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Aaron Rodgers.

Some would say Rodgers should be in the first wave. But here’s the rub: He doesn’t seem to be inclined to complain about his current contract, even though he’s woefully underpaid. It’s the Jon Voight Phenomenon; Rodgers did a bad deal, committing himself for seven full seasons in 2013 without accounting for potential spikes in the salary cap. As a result, his aging $22 million-per-year contract doesn’t compare well to new Derek Carr’s $25 million annual deal.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/
Aaron Rodgers signed a 5 year, $110,000,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, including a $33,250,000 signing bonus, $54,000,000 guaranteed, and $54,000,000 guaranteed. In 2017, Rodgers will earn a base salary of $12,550,000, a roster bonus of $600,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $20,300,000 and a dead cap value of $6,650,000.

That was in 2015 so he's not woefully underpaid. He got his upfront money and a big $54,000,000 guarantee. Geez $22 million-per-year contract and he is underpaid. He could have signed a year to year contract. For teams to sign QBs (good players) early it's a smart play. Skins should have committed to Cousins in 2016.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/22/derek-carr-gets-40-million-guaranteed-at-signing/

The Raiders and quarterback Derek Carr have agreed to a five-year extension that is worth up to $125 million over the life of the deal.

As any longtime follower of NFL contracts is well aware, however, the details of how the deal is structured in terms of guaranteed money provides a fuller view of how much money a player will see over the life of the contract.

According to multiple reports, Carr’s deal gives him $40 million in fully guaranteed money at the time of signing. There are reportedly $70 million in total guarantees, but it’s not clear how those are structured.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/22/looking-at-the-coming-waves-of-quarterback-deals/

Looking at the coming waves of quarterback deals
Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2017

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When it comes to quarterback contracts, the player’s circumstances tend to have much more relevance to the final numbers than the broader market at the position. On Thursday, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr combined his status as a second-round pick entering the fourth and final year of his contract along with a clear message that he’s willing to do the franchise-tag dance into a long-term contract that nudges the bar a little higher than Colts quarterback Andrew Luck did a year ago.

As each franchise quarterback signs, attention turns to the next wave. Or two. Or three. Here’s a look at each of the foreseeable waves of major quarterback deals.

1. The Next Wave.

Kirk Cousins.

The twice-tagged Washington quarterback will either sign a long-term deal by July 17 or posture himself for one of several options in 2018: (1) a long-term contract with Washington signed after the season ends; (2) the transition tag of $28.7 million; (3) the franchise tag of $34.47 million; or (4) a shot at the open market, either with an offer sheet under the transition tag or as an unrestricted free agent.

His risks of letting it ride for a third straight year are simple and clear — serious injury or complete and total ineffectiveness. Either way, he will have made $44 million over two years, and at a minimum someone will pay him $5 million or so to serve as a backup in 2018, if for some reason he badly regresses this season.

What he’d make on the open market remains to be seen. The 49ers are believed to be interested, given the presence of former Washington offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. But the Rams have hired the coordinator who helped Cousins throw for more than 4,900 yards in 2016.

If head coach Sean McVay decides that he both wants Cousins and hopes to keep him from Shanahan, Cousins could be in position to sit back and allow the NFC West rivals to bid the package higher and higher.

Matthew Stafford.

Stafford has a $16.5 million salary in 2017, the last year of the extension he signed with two years left on his rookie deal. With a 2017 cap number of $22 million, his franchise tender for 2018 would be $26.4 million. For 2019, it would move to $31.68 million. That’s a bare minimum of $74.58 million to be paid out over the next three years, and thus the starting point for another extension.

Bottom line? He could (should) soon eclipse Carr as the highest paid player in NFL history.

Jimmy Garoppolo.

A second-round pick from 2014 (like Carr), Garoppolo has been the subject of plenty of speculation regarding trades, franchise tags, and bridge deals aimed at paying him a lot of money to wait behind Tom Brady. For now, coach Bill Belichick merely wants to keep Garoppolo in place as insurance against a Brady injury. Come 2018, a decision will need to be made.

Some believe that Brady could retire after winning a sixth Super Bowl, especially since his wife seems to be steadily nudging him to walk off into the sunset. If that happens, the Patriots would then have a limited window for negotiating a long-term Garoppolo deal, with the franchise tag as the fallback against Garoppolo hitting the market.

The real question is whether the tag also would be the starting point on a long-term quarterback. For most quarterbacks, it is. But Garoppolo: (1) plays for the Patriots; and (2) is represented by Don Yee, the agent who has signed off on multiple below-market Tom Brady deals.

Some think the Patriots will be able to get Garoppolo to take less than top dollar, like Brady has done. Others think Yee is determined to do with Garoppolo that which Brady refused to ever do.

If Brady refuses to retire after 2017 (and if the Patriots choose to keep him in place as a 41-year-old starter in 2018), they could tag and trade Garoppolo (see Matt Cassel), keep him under the tag for a year, sign Garoppolo to a short-term deal aimed at keeping him in place to take over for Brady, or let Garoppolo hit the open market and enhance their haul of compensatory draft picks in 2019.

Drew Brees.

Brees has one year left under contract, and a clause prohibiting the team from using the franchise tag to keep him in place the following year. Whether he stays or goes, Brees will count for a minimum of $18 million under the New Orleans salary cap next year.

He has said he won’t extend the deal, which means he’ll either sign with the Saints after the 2017 season ends and before the launch of free agency or he’ll become an unrestricted free agent, like he did more than 11 years ago.

So what is a 39-year-old franchise quarterback worth on the open market? We could find out within nine months.

Sam Bradford.

Yes, Sam Bradford. The last No. 1 overall pick of the pre-rookie wage scale era, who made $78 million on his first six-year deal and enters the final season of the two-year, $36 million contract signed in Philadelphia last year. Now the starter in Minnesota, the Vikings can pay him a lot of money now or even more later, if forced to use the franchise tag to keep him in place.

The wildcard as to Bradford is Teddy Bridgewater. The Vikings could end up choosing to keep him instead, if he recovers sufficiently from the devastating knee injury that compelled the Vikings to trade for Bradford last September.

A.J. McCarron.

Yes, A.J. McCarron. Other teams have been interested in trading for him, but the Bengals have wanted too much for the man who nearly helped Cincinnati nail down the No. 2 seed — and who did everything in his power to win a 2015 wild-card game against the Steelers — after Andy Dalton broke his thumb. Will someone break the bank for McCarron? He’s due to become an unrestricted free agent in March.

2. The Second Wave.

Matt Ryan.

The Falcons quarterback has two years remaining on his current deal, with a 2018 cap number of $21.65 million. This means that he’d make $25.98 million, at a minimum, under the franchise tag in 2019. With $35 million in cash due to be paid out over the next two seasons, the Falcons could approach Ryan about trading it in for a long-term deal that puts north of Carr in annual average, or Ryan could wait for the market to keep going up — and in turn for his leverage to increase.

However it plays out, another major payday is coming for Ryan. There’s currently no reason to think Ryan will push it to the brink and force the Falcons to play the franchise-tag dance.

Jameis Winston.

Winston won’t approach free agency or the franchise tag until after the 2019 season, but he’ll be eligible for a second contract after 2017 . Given that the Buccaneers have never (never) given a second contract to any quarterback the franchise drafted, they may want to make a statement by committing to Winston as early as possible — and possibly at a number far lower than it would be if he’s closer to the franchise tag.

Marcus Mariota.

Mariota, the second pick in the same year Winston was drafted No. 1 overall, also becomes eligible for a new deal after the 2017 season. The Titans will need to decide whether to move quickly or let it play out a bit, with Mariota under contract through 2019, once they pick up the fifth-year option. The decision could, in theory, hinge on how quickly the Buccaneers extend Winston, and vice-versa.

3. The Third Wave.

Aaron Rodgers.

Some would say Rodgers should be in the first wave. But here’s the rub: He doesn’t seem to be inclined to complain about his current contract, even though he’s woefully underpaid. It’s the Jon Voight Phenomenon; Rodgers did a bad deal, committing himself for seven full seasons in 2013 without accounting for potential spikes in the salary cap. As a result, his aging $22 million-per-year contract doesn’t compare well to new Derek Carr’s $25 million annual deal.

In March, as rumors and reports grew that the Bears would be giving Mike Glennon $15 million or more per year in free agency, Rodgers said as to whether this would compel contract talks for him, “I think it has to.” In response to the PFT item on the issue, Rodgers downplayed the obvious implications of his words and brushed our interpretation off as “#fakenews.”

Interpretation of the reaction to the interpretation? He plans to keep driving the LeBaron once owned by Jon Voight the actor, resisting any and all suggestions that it was actually owned by John Voight the periodontist.

Russell Wilson.

As Wilson entered the last year of his rookie deal in 2015, the Seahawks rewarded Wilson for a pair of Super Bowl appearances (and avoided the franchise-tag dilemma) with a four-year extension worth $21.9 million per year. Wisely, Wilson ensured that he’d get back to the market sooner than later, which likely puts him in line for another extension after the 2018 season, when once again approaches the final year of his current deal in 2019.

Dak Prescott.

The fourth-round phenom becomes eligible for a new deal after the 2018 season, and 2019 will be the fourth and final year of his rookie deal. The Cowboys will need to decide whether to do a top-of-market deal before Prescott approaches the franchise tag, or risk inheriting a Kirk Cousins conundrum. How he plays, and what the team achieves, over the next two years will be critical to answering that question.

What hurts is Fisher was so sure of Greg Robinson. I thought The Rams were smart enough to take Johnyy Football off there board. There have been rumors they wanted him. I know the they liked that Nick guy from ND (OG).
Trading up for Joyner instead of going for Derick Carr. The 5th rd pick could have been AJ McCarron ,also the QB from LSU .
Joyner & Mo should make a good match in The Rams Safeties.
 

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Whoa.

Being a starting QB, I guess they really didn't have a choice... but is he really at that level?

He isn't. He's pretty good, but not top level.

The contracts QB's get are crazy. Carr is #18 in YPA, #15 in completion %, #14 in total yards, #14 in YPG.

The only area where he cracks the top 10 is TD's where he is tied at #7 with two players and fewest INT's. Those are good things of course, but he is not a top 10 guy.

There are going to be some eye opening deals in the next two years. It's going to be crazy. And I think it's going to further turn off fans too.
 

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He isn't. He's pretty good, but not top level.

The contracts QB's get are crazy. Carr is #18 in YPA, #15 in completion %, #14 in total yards, #14 in YPG.

The only area where he cracks the top 10 is TD's where he is tied at #7 with two players and fewest INT's. Those are good things of course, but he is not a top 10 guy.

There are going to be some eye opening deals in the next two years. It's going to be crazy. And I think it's going to further turn off fans too.
I think he is certainly a top 10 QB. The numbers speak for itself.

Most 4th quarter comebacks in the league over the last two years.

Highest rated passer in the league in the 4th quarter last season.

Highest rated passer when the Raiders were trailing in the league last year.

Highest touchdown to interception ratio in the first three years of a career of anyone in football history not named Dan Marino.

Only player in the history of the NFL to throw for 500 yards, 4 touchdowns and 0 interceptions on the road.

Voted the 11th best player in football by his peers.

If I were to put together a top 10 list off the top of my head it would look like this:
10. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Stafford
8. Philip Rivers
7. Derek Carr
6. Eli Manning
5. Ben Roethisberger
4. Drew Brees
3. Matt Ryan
2. Tom Brady
1. Aaron Rodgers
 

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I think he is certainly a top 10 QB. The numbers speak for itself.

Most 4th quarter comebacks in the league over the last two years.

Highest rated passer in the league in the 4th quarter last season.

Highest rated passer when the Raiders were trailing in the league last year.

Highest touchdown to interception ratio in the first three years of a career of anyone in football history not named Dan Marino.

Only player in the history of the NFL to throw for 500 yards, 4 touchdowns and 0 interceptions on the road.

Voted the 11th best player in football by his peers.

If I were to put together a top 10 list off the top of my head it would look like this:
10. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Stafford
8. Philip Rivers
7. Derek Carr
6. Eli Manning
5. Ben Roethisberger
4. Drew Brees
3. Matt Ryan
2. Tom Brady
1. Aaron Rodgers
The Raiders' receivers also dropped 29 passes last season, 2nd most in the league.
 

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I think he is certainly a top 10 QB. The numbers speak for itself.

Most 4th quarter comebacks in the league over the last two years.

Highest rated passer in the league in the 4th quarter last season.

Highest rated passer when the Raiders were trailing in the league last year.

Highest touchdown to interception ratio in the first three years of a career of anyone in football history not named Dan Marino.

Only player in the history of the NFL to throw for 500 yards, 4 touchdowns and 0 interceptions on the road.

Voted the 11th best player in football by his peers.

If I were to put together a top 10 list off the top of my head it would look like this:
10. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Stafford
8. Philip Rivers
7. Derek Carr
6. Eli Manning
5. Ben Roethisberger
4. Drew Brees
3. Matt Ryan
2. Tom Brady
1. Aaron Rodgers
Only thing missing:
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I think he is certainly a top 10 QB. The numbers speak for itself.

Most 4th quarter comebacks in the league over the last two years.

Highest rated passer in the league in the 4th quarter last season.

Highest rated passer when the Raiders were trailing in the league last year.

Highest touchdown to interception ratio in the first three years of a career of anyone in football history not named Dan Marino.

Only player in the history of the NFL to throw for 500 yards, 4 touchdowns and 0 interceptions on the road.

Voted the 11th best player in football by his peers.

If I were to put together a top 10 list off the top of my head it would look like this:
10. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Stafford
8. Philip Rivers
7. Derek Carr
6. Eli Manning
5. Ben Roethisberger
4. Drew Brees
3. Matt Ryan
2. Tom Brady
1. Aaron Rodgers

Don't get me wrong, he's a good QB. But that contract makes him the highest paid player in the history of the NFL. And that Raider defense has put the offense in position to win games. It's easy to use a couple of stats for us both to make our point but overall he's nowhere near the money to production. For that money I want a player like ARodgers who can actually change the outcome of the game.

This contract pays $69 MIL guaranteed in the first three years!!! That's CRAZY money for him. What's going to happen when other QB contracts come up?

What is going to happen to the Raiders when they have contracts to redo? They have drafted a lot of young talent.

How is he going to live up to that contract? I wouldn't have paid him that much money. I know the Raiders haven't had squat at QB for ages but that's a lot of cheddar for a good QB.
 

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I think he is certainly a top 10 QB. The numbers speak for itself.

Most 4th quarter comebacks in the league over the last two years.

Highest rated passer in the league in the 4th quarter last season.

Highest rated passer when the Raiders were trailing in the league last year.

Highest touchdown to interception ratio in the first three years of a career of anyone in football history not named Dan Marino.

Only player in the history of the NFL to throw for 500 yards, 4 touchdowns and 0 interceptions on the road.

Voted the 11th best player in football by his peers.

If I were to put together a top 10 list off the top of my head it would look like this:
10. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Stafford
8. Philip Rivers
7. Derek Carr
6. Eli Manning
5. Ben Roethisberger
4. Drew Brees
3. Matt Ryan
2. Tom Brady
1. Aaron Rodgers
Carr & Eli over Luck & Cam? Russell behind Stafford? Strongly disagree with those.

Don't get me wrong, Carr is a good QB, but he does have the benefits of having a top 3 OL & mutiple good WRs while others like Luck & Cam don't share the same privilege. He also doesn't have a playoff win, yet. I don't think he is worthy of being the highest paid player in NFL history, but he won't be for long due to the market continuing to rise.