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This is fair. I'd like to see him spend his off season with Bruce or Holt to become a better route runner.

I think that kind of thing is over rated...Robinson was supposed to learn boatloads from spending time with LeCharles Bentley...I think that was a waste of time and money...Could be apples and oranges but seems like a fair analogy to me...
 

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The Rams offense scored 23 total TD's this season. Tavon had 4
They had 27 TD's in 2015. Tavon had 10
How many more during that time have been nullified due to boneheaded penalties or BS calls? 6? 7?

Unless you can fleece someone in a trade he stays at least another full season under a competent offensive staff.
 

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Austin got 86 touches this year. He averaged less than 9 YPC, that's not getting it done.
That's on par for what RBs average. I think if Austin is used like Montgomery in GB, Lewis in NE or Woodhead in SD, he would be a very effective player. Just need the right coaches that know how to maximize our players abilities.
 

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That's on par for what RBs average. I think if Austin is used like Montgomery in GB, Lewis in NE or Woodhead in SD, he would be a very effective player. Just need the right coaches that know how to maximize our players abilities.
The only problem is you don't pay 3rd down backs 3 million per year.
 

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He will be Payton's new Cook if we can land Him!

I would be excited to see who he brings in as wr coach bc they seem to produce guys at wideout that come out of nowhere.
 

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The only problem is you don't pay 3rd down backs 3 million per year.
That's true, but it really doesn't have anything to do with maximizing his abilities. I didn't want to trade up and draft him and I surely would not have gave him that contract. He'll have one more year in LA and if he doesn't produce, he'll be gone.
 

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I've been 50/50 on Tavon. Let's see what he does in a new system. He doesn't need much of an opening to blow by the defense. He is over paid but could be worth it in the long run. Lot's of big plays nullified by penalties in the past.
 

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Is it even realistic to consider cutting Austin? Just thinking if we can creative as most cash for us moving forward... Justing wondering. Thx

Good question. I have been thinking about it myself. Just thinking out loud here.....wondering if we could trade him and agree to pay 33% of his salary to help out the new team absorb his salary. We would save on the Salary Cap and pick up a draft pick which is needed.
 

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I am taking the wait and see approach to Austin
as well as the rest of the team.Yes we overpaid him.
Let's see how much of this was poor coaching,scheme.
I think there will be some surprises with players outperforming
what they have in the past.

Ya, your right I thinking is "if" we could somehow save some cheese he's totally replaceable. I looking at all avenues to create ca$h to add some OL or upgrade at DE
 

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Only way he will flourish is if he improves his route running. He isn't consistent enough to be considered a good offensive player.

and he still drops a few very catchable balls to which pis$es me off to no end!
 

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Why the hell would we get rid of one of the playmakers from our team?? We barely have any and someone is talking about cutting him???

Is this a dream or have people gone mad?

Like I said, I feel we need to greatly improve the OL so I was just wondering if there was a chance to save some cash.I just think he's overrated. Dude only averaging 8.6 yards and I seen him drop a lot of catchable balls. He's no ring of honour guy IMHO
protect the QB and open the lanes for #30 thats more important than #11 running terrible routes etc. Not hating just the facts here
 

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That's on par for what RBs average. I think if Austin is used like Montgomery in GB, Lewis in NE or Woodhead in SD, he would be a very effective player. Just need the right coaches that know how to maximize our players abilities.

Dude is waay smaller than them and built differently ( he's thinner) to handle that load. I think he needs to focus on mastering being a WR. And w/ all due respect he appears to be a pre-Madonna. But hey thats just me I guess.
 

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The Rams offense scored 23 total TD's this season. Tavon had 4
They had 27 TD's in 2015. Tavon had 10
How many more during that time have been nullified due to boneheaded penalties or BS calls? 6? 7?

Unless you can fleece someone in a trade he stays at least another full season under a competent offensive staff.

You will always see a ton of penalties with Austin, especially on returns. Its his style, he hops about and moves laterally a lot, that what gets guys stuck for holding when they don't expect him to cut back the other way.

He is a great returner, but thats one of the things that will always be present because of how he returns.

He is getting paid like a top flight WR/offensive weapon, which he at least as this point is not. His routes are still terribly sloppy and he does not have the size to make up for a lack of separation. "Get him the ball in space!!" is said way too often. I for one want to see more than end arounds , jet sweeps, and bubble screens in his game.

He isn't a guy they should be looking to be cut, but that said he shoudn't of been a guy they were looking to extend at those numbers.
 

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I think Austin will be someone will base some of their offensive philosophy on. He's a gadget player that when it works....all the world sees it. And because of that (and the recent "investment"....) I think the offensive guys will use him as a 2nd jumping off point (w/ Goff being the first....Gurley will have his ship righted w/ better offensive line play....)
 

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Would be nice to see Tavon Austin utilized like Tyreek Hill
 

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I think that kind of thing is over rated...Robinson was supposed to learn boatloads from spending time with LeCharles Bentley...I think that was a waste of time and money...Could be apples and oranges but seems like a fair analogy to me...

It doesnt always work out sure. But it really doesnt hurt to try am i right? It does work out and helps sometimes. Nothing in life is guaranteed.
 

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Because he isn't consistent enough on offense to justify the 5-10 big plays he makes a year. Austin is like the baseball player that hits you 40 HRs but also bats .190, strikes out a lot, and doesn't field too well. Yes the HRs are nice, but you'd much rather have a guy that only hits 20 HRs but bats .300 and is solid in the field. His inconsistency on offense and his inability to fit in a traditional scheme hurts the offense overall.

Austin got 86 touches this year. He averaged less than 9 YPC, that's not getting it done.


Damnit Fro we pretty much are at one with everything but I got to differ with you on Tavon! Lol

I don't think the baseball anabolic works because of the difference in amount of games per season between sports. Tavon has showed that he is not just a WR, a RB, or a PR he is all of the above.

I will admit to hypocrisy here stating that the offensive scheme/coaching has been shit for him and it's really not his fault while i will crucify the O line as to be at fault for all of this. The guy averaged 5.7 yards a run this year and 8.8 yards as a 3rd WR which is pretty damned good in my book.

We thought Cignetti was bad and wanted to get rid of him and Boras was an absolute disaster with the mustached jack wagon letting all the crap continue. ( like he would have a clue on offense anyways lol)

My first choice isn't Asshole Face but I'll be the first to say he'd utilize Tavon correctly and his full potential would be met imo. The myth that he's so expensive is because his contract is front loaded like how J Laus was years back and people had a heart attack for what we paid him until you didn't hear nothing afterwards until his play started declining. ( and I was one of j lau's biggest champions here)

Kyle Shanny would do great things with him because IMO Tavons peak isn't reached until all other cylinders are going and he's more like a nitrous boost to take you over the top.

If nothing else he is our second RB on this team.
Benny's stats 2016:
101 yards 4.8 avg 0 TD

Tavons:
149 yards 5.7 avg 1 TD

I won't get into 2015 stars because Tavon blows his 2016 ones out the water.

Also how many offensive and ST's TD's or big plays (especially non essential ones to the Play in question) has been called back of Tavons? A huuuuuuuuuge amount!

We need to get a offense together and get rid of shit players that are over paid and not game changers like Kendricks and Quick and get some people in here that will open up Tavons game.
 
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Damnit Fro we pretty much are at one with everything but I got to differ with you on Tavon! Lol

I don't think the baseball anabolic works because of the difference in amount of games per season between sports. Tavon has showed that he is not just a WR, a RB, or a PR he is all of the above.

I will admit to hypocrisy here stating that the offensive scheme/coaching has been crap for him and it's really not his fault while i will crucify the O line as to be at fault for all of this. The guy averaged 5.7 yards a run this year and 8.8 yards as a 3rd WR which is pretty damned good in my book.

We thought Cignetti was bad and wanted to get rid of him and Boras was an absolute disaster with the mustached jack wagon letting all the crap continue. ( like he would have a clue on offense anyways lol)

My first choice isn't Asshole Face but I'll be the first to say he'd utilize Tavon correctly and his full potential would be met imo. The myth that he's so expensive is because his contract is front loaded like how J Laus was years back and people had a heart attack for what we paid him until you didn't hear nothing afterwards until his play started declining. ( and I was one of j lau's biggest champions here)

Kyle Shanny would do great things with him because IMO Tavons peak isn't reached until all other cylinders are going and he's more like a nitrous boost to take you over the top.

If nothing else he is our second RB on this team.
Benny's stats 2016:
101 yards 4.8 avg 0 TD

Tavons:
149 yards 5.7 avg 1 TD

I won't get into 2015 stars because Tavon blows his 2016 ones out the water.

Also how many offensive and ST's TD's or big plays (especially non essential ones to the Play in question) has been called back of Tavons? A huuuuuuuuuge amount!

We need to get a offense together and get rid of crap players that are over paid and not game changers like Kendricks and Quick and get some people in here that will open up Tavons game.
Just to be clear to everyone I'm not a Austin hater, I just expect more out of the guy.

I think this board is too quick to blame the coaching and scheme. With the same coaching and scheme Britt was able to reach 1000 yards. The scheme doesn't make Austin run bad routes. The scheme doesn't limit Austin's ability to make a play on the ball. That's 100% on Austin. Until he improves his game it won't matter what the scheme is. Austin has shown he is capable of making big plays here or there, but he hasn't shown an ability to be a consistently productive player.