BountyGate: Does Goodell have Power to Impose Penalties?

[Stranger]

The NFLPA does NOT seem to think so. According to them, the CBA says it's the role of an arbitrator.



Article here
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... rove-smith

Download full Appeal here
http://proplayerinsiders.com.s3.amazona ... ration.pdf

 

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They can bark all they want (The NFLPA), but I don't think they'll be successful. I've been in a giant Union for most of my adult life, and grievances rarely (if ever) get met with a satisfactory resolution for the person or persons doing the appealing. Think about who has the leverage. The league office, or the players association? I know technically the league can't exist without the players, but think about it. Who is more easily replaced? The NFL, or players?

Almost every time a Union member used the Union to file a grievance with an employer (in this instance, Global Elevator Corporations), the Elevator Corporation would say, "So what? We fired him (or suspended him), and that's our call. Don't like it? Well, that's a shame. What's your next move?"

 

[Ram Quixote]

The point I heard that I thought was laughable was the NFLPA saying Goodell can't suspend players because the conduct occurred before the current collective bargaining agreement was signed. :what:

 

[Stranger]

They can bark all they want (The NFLPA), but I don't think they'll be successful. I've been in a giant Union for most of my adult life, and grievances rarely (if ever) get met with a satisfactory resolution for the person or persons doing the appealing. Think about who has the leverage. The league office, or the players association? I know technically the league can't exist without the players, but think about it. Who is more easily replaced? The NFL, or players?

Almost every time a Union member used the Union to file a grievance with an employer (in this instance, Global Elevator Corporations), the Elevator Corporation would say, "So what? We fired him (or suspended him), and that's our call. Don't like it? Well, that's a shame. What's your next move?"

While I'm unfamiliar with the terms of the elevator union's agreement with the company, in this case it appears that the CBA, they just signed, does indeed include provisions for managing these scenarios, and Goodell did not comply with those provisions. If that can be shown, that there was a material breach of contract, then the NFLPA would have cause for a dmages claim against the NFL. I guess it all depends how strongly the NFLPA lawyers plan to manage adherence to the new CBA.

 

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They can bark all they want (The NFLPA), but I don't think they'll be successful. I've been in a giant Union for most of my adult life, and grievances rarely (if ever) get met with a satisfactory resolution for the person or persons doing the appealing. Think about who has the leverage. The league office, or the players association? I know technically the league can't exist without the players, but think about it. Who is more easily replaced? The NFL, or players?

Almost every time a Union member used the Union to file a grievance with an employer (in this instance, Global Elevator Corporations), the Elevator Corporation would say, "So what? We fired him (or suspended him), and that's our call. Don't like it? Well, that's a shame. What's your next move?"

While I'm unfamiliar with the terms of the elevator union's agreement with the company, in this case it appears that the CBA, they just signed, does indeed include provisions for managing these scenarios, and Goodell did not comply with those provisions. If that can be shown, that there was a material breach of contract, then the NFLPA would have cause for a dmages claim against the NFL. I guess it all depends how strongly the NFLPA lawyers plan to manage adherence to the new CBA.

Most labor union CBAs are the same. They all have those provisions for due process.

All I'm saying is, they don't have much of a chance to reverse any decisions. This is just the Union following due process on behalf of one of their members. The likelihood that anything gets reversed, or any litigation arises from this; is slim. Very slim.

 

[Stranger]

Most labor union CBAs are the same. They all have those provisions for due process.

All I'm saying is, they don't have much of a chance to reverse any decisions. This is just the Union following due process on behalf of one of their members. The likelihood that anything gets reversed, or any litigation arises from this; is slim. Very slim.

That's really too bad.

What, exactly, are Domonique Foxworth and DeMaurice Smith paid to do if not this?