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Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by RFIP, May 12, 2014.

  1. RFIP Well-Known Member

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    Two words: Franchise Tag

     
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  2. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    For me, a #1 WR is a player capable of winning 1 on 1 match-ups consistently on the outside and capable of dictating coverage. Without looking at a list, I'd say there are around 15(give or take 3) players I'd consider #1 WRs. #2 WRs are outside WRs that are not good enough to be a #1. A #3 WR is usually a slot WR but may be an outside WR that cannot consistently separate outside who is better off in the slot(Brandon Gibson is an example of this type of WR). A #4 WR is a role player typically.

    At least in my book.
     
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  3. The Rammer ESPN Draft Guru

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    I pray thats the case bro! #32 ;) lol
    Have you heard of any FA WR's coming up next year or good WR coming out by chance? I have a feeling this year one or two of those WR's will do decent enough to not get the axe. Britt if he doesn't catch idiotcitis again might be around for a few more years.
     
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  4. ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    It's a possibility if their respective teams all want and can afford to pay them $11.5M for the following season.

    Some of those players will shake free.
     
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  5. Tron Fights for the User

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    There are a lot. These were posted earlier detailing some of the top WR FA's and prospects.

     
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  6. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if we'll want to give a long term deal next year with all our guys hitting FA.
     
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  7. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Not only that but it is WAY too early to talk 2015 FAs IMO. We have a team of youngsters. By the time FA hits in 2015, our needs could be vastly different than they APPEAR now.
     
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  8. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    And here I thought they were Debbie Downer. :fighting:
     
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  9. ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    Who's going to be hitting FA that's worth signing long-term within the next few years? Quinn obviously.

    Other than that Barksdale and Kendricks are the only two players that have a good shot at seeing raises on the open market this coming offseason and I wouldn't be surprised if Barksdale walks with the team moving Robinson to the right side.

    You'll have Wells coming off the books. Langford may be in his last season if Donald tears it up. I hope the AAV of Bradford's next contract doesn't exceed that of his rookie deal. Laurinaitis's contract is majorly discounted after this year.

    Sure you want to have money available for Brockers, Jenkins, Austin, Ogletree, etc. but they're not due up for contracts for another 2-4 years.

    With the cap rising there should be more than enough felixibility to get something done there should they choose to go that direction. Depending on how well the offense does this year they may not even consider it.
     
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  10. RaminExile Well-Known Member

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    Tavon Austin has to be much, much more than simply a "specialized" weapon. He's an outside guy primarily who can burn the d and break any given play for a big one - and due to his size and shiftiness you can move him around the line of scrimmage and in motion to the inside etc. You don't (or shouldn't) trade up to pick a specialized weapon #8 overall. He's better than that and would be wasted in a gimmicky role.
     
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  11. Flipper_336 Active Member

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    Papa: don't preach.
     
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  12. max Well-Known Member

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    How many Super Bowl winners have had a #1 WR the past few years? Is Boldin a #1 or a strong #2?
     
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    Hes an outside guy? Hmmm... IDK about that. He can occasionally play outside but thats not where he will make his living. He is a slot WR primarily and can be used of special plays and runs around the LOS. There is nothing wrong with that or spending the draft to get that kind of player. The NFL has changed WRs don't singularly play outside any longer. Especially with all the formations we are seeing now. Percy Harvin is the template. Lets just hope he stays healthier than Harvin
     
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  14. ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    Tavon should be utilized on the outside far more than he was last season. He should also be used in the backfield far more than he was last season.

    Basically if they plan to use him just as they did Danny Amendola, they're wasting his skill set. He can be a very versatile receiving thread and I really hope they've realized this after one season.

    If the offense is on the field, Tavon needs to be out there.

    Now if you excuse me, I'm going to go watch highlights from the Indy game...
     
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  15. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Boldin at this point in his career is a #2.
     
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  16. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Percy Harvin shouldn't be the template, though. Austin has potential to be a great route runner...which is something Harvin never developed into. Austin can separate vertically, which is something Harvin has never done consistently.

    Harvin plays the slot because it best uses his skill-set. He doesn't have the right combination of skills to separate consistently outside and teams want to get the ball in his hands as much as possible.

    Austin should play outside more often than not. He's more like DeSean Jackson than Harvin. The guy was a terror when lined up outside last year. He separates so well vertically, he's so explosive off the LOS and sudden that he's difficult to press, and he flashes the ability to run precise and crisp routes. Austin should be our Z WR while playing some snaps out of the back-field and the slot on occasion to give teams differing looks.
     
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  17. max Well-Known Member

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    What about when he won the SB with the Ravens?
     
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  18. RaminExile Well-Known Member

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    Well going by the stats he was more effective outside than in the slot - and it lets him utilize his blazing speed to take the top off the defence. I advocate moving him around - but my main point is that he'd be wasted as a "joker" slot guy.
     
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  19. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    #2 WR
     
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    Yeah. All the big time #1 WRs: Megatron, Dez, Green, Julio, etc. have never won a SB.

    Actually the last time a team drafted a WR in the first round and won a SB with him was 2007. That was by the Colts and Reggie Wayne. And it had to help that he played with one of the greatest QBs ever.

    And the last time a team won a SB with an OT drafted in high in the first round was last year with Okung and Seattle.
     
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