Be thankful of Snisher

[My Sources]

With thanksgiving coming up and the Goff Era starting Sunday I think we all should be great full for what Snead and Fisher have done with this team. Yes they make a lot of mistakes and fisher is too stubborn to change his old school ways but I can say I am happy with the team they havr drafted and developed. We have 1 of the most talented defenses in the nfl and a young offense with a lot of playmakers. If fisher stays or goes this team will always be something he built from the ground up .

I couldn't disagree more. I've been a fan since the 70s and have been quite patient with the team. However, I am now out of patience. I am thrilled that they are back in LA where they belong but at this point can honestly say I watch with no emotion. Yes, they made some good picks but they have failed far more than they have succeeded. They totally mishandled the draft picks they got from the RGIII deal. The proof is in the pudding. 5 years in and still the most boring offense in the league while the team we so called fleeced made good decisions and became competitive despite a lack of draft picks.

Snisher were negligent in the manner in which they assessed Qbs and WRs. Then, after cashing in all those picks finally decide to go for a QB. Only now they have to give up a bounty to select one. They blew it with Robinson when there were other Olineman who were ready to make an immediate impact. I could go on and on. Bottom line is that they are still an incomplete boring team. If Goff doesn't work out that should be the last straw. I honestly feel this team will not succeed until Fisher and Snead are gone.

 

[Merlin]

Where Fish deserves credit is the move up to get Goff in his fifth season. A lot of head coaches would not be enough of a team guy to do that, they would load up as much as they could with those picks for this season. Outside of that, no way. Dude still needs to win, and he's well on his way to a new job right now, so being thankful is way outside where we need to be IMO.

Only thing I am thankful for right now is that we are going to get a look at our future tomorrow. It's a long road to the top for QBs, and the first year doesn't really mean much in terms of indicating how his career will pan out. So yeah, hopefully his talent will show through. Gonna be a mixed bag, and all I care about is he emerges healthy and gets us in position to win the game.

 

[Adi]

I couldn't disagree more. I've been a fan since the 70s and have been quite patient with the team. However, I am now out of patience. I am thrilled that they are back in LA where they belong but at this point can honestly say I watch with no emotion. Yes, they made some good picks but they have failed far more than they have succeeded. They totally mishandled the draft picks they got from the RGIII deal. The proof is in the pudding. 5 years in and still the most boring offense in the league while the team we so called fleeced made good decisions and became competitive despite a lack of draft picks.

Snisher were negligent in the manner in which they assessed Qbs and WRs. Then, after cashing in all those picks finally decide to go for a QB. Only now they have to give up a bounty to select one. They blew it with Robinson when there were other Olineman who were ready to make an immediate impact. I could go on and on. Bottom line is that they are still an incomplete boring team. If Goff doesn't work out that should be the last straw. I honestly feel this team will not succeed until Fisher and Snead are gone.

Your don't agree that they have drafted a talented team ? If anyone else drafted Gurley, Donald,Ogletree, tru ,brockers , Austin and now Goff that GM would be praised by the whole league. I agree they have not developed the offense as well as they should but I think all that changes with Goff. No one will ever respect keenum and he was holding everyone back because defenses knew he couldn't beat them.

 

[Corbin]

Honestly I love Snead...Fisher has me scratching my head sometimes but I think if we start drafting more with NFL ready prospects than potential I think we will be fine. Some of those premium picks are head scratchers even at the time they are drafted. Plus can you really not love a guy with a head of hair like Snead does? lol

 

[My Sources]

Waiting for the OP to write a retraction. This regime cannot be allowed to continue. I'm pretty much done for this year. You're killing me Rams. Make the changes now or risk losing your fan base. There is no excuse for the product you have put on the field year in and year out.

 

[thirteen28]

I'm fine with Snead, I'd consider keeping him around. He's revamped the scouting department, and I think he's done a generally good job of drafting.

The crappy game plans, the mentality of playing not to lose, the lack of discipline, etc., etc., is not his fault. He's given Fisher the players he wanted and the players Fisher thinks he can win with. If Fisher can't win with the players he's been given, it's not Snead's fault.

 

[My Sources]

Not

I'm fine with Snead, I'd consider keeping him around. He's revamped the scouting department, and I think he's done a generally good job of drafting.

The crappy game plans, the mentality of playing not to lose, the lack of discipline, etc., etc., is not his fault. He's given Fisher the players he wanted and the players Fisher thinks he can win with. If Fisher can't win with the players he's been given, it's not Snead's fault.

sure if I agree. It seems he's just as complicit as Fisher in failing to field an entertaining and winning culture. You may give him a pass but I just can't do it. I think they are partners in crime.

 

[Ellard80]

yeah... this post was questionable before... not without some merit.

Now it looks... yeah kind of silly.

 

[Gandalf]

I like Fisher I would enjoy having a beer with him while we watch the Rams play.

 

[Merlin]

Way I feel right now this post makes me want to pour gas on my computer and light it.

 

[dieterbrock]

Spagnolo won 7 games with the Rams. With all this obvious upgrade in talent and the result is at best, 7 wins 5 seasons later?
Yeah I wouldn't mind Snead sticking around with a legit coach but am ok with a total reboot

 

[UKram]

i like Snead we have bought in some serious talent (Gurley.. Donald ) he is not afraid to make moves in the draft be it up or down

i have an issue with Fishers outdated view of football .. i mean the ground and pound ball control good defense thing can work ..but get the players that can play in that offense... a monster o line with 5 maulers ..two big WR who can block on the perimeter..not a bunch of finesse blockers speedy small slot guys ..it seems to me that the rams offensive personal is at odds with our offensive identity ...Fish said something in his presser about being asked if we will throw down the field and he said something along the lines of (and i am paraphrasing here) ..no we dont do that as an offense (meaning that's not our philosophy )

 

[Faceplant]

So as far as all the "serious talent" that Snisher has brought in goes. Who other than Donald and possibly Tree can you really say are standout players in this league?? Don't EVEN say Gurley as he is ranked near the bottom of the league right now as far as RBs go and sorry, but I do not put that all on the OL. Speaking of the OL....how many picks have they whiffed on with that unit?? And again, you can say this team is twice as talented as the one they inherited, but WTF difference does that make when you still can't win games???

 

[UKram]

So as far as all the "serious talent" that Snisher has brought in goes. Who other than Donald and possibly Tree can you really say are standout players in this league?? Don't EVEN say Gurley as he is ranked near the bottom of the league right now as far as RBs go and sorry, but I do not put that all on the OL. Speaking of the OL....how many picks have they whiffed on with that unit?? And again, you can say this team is twice as talented as the one they inherited, but WTF difference does that make when you still can't win games???

thats the key statement ...right now ..no arguments from me Gurley is having a bad year but he is still only in his second year ...no idea why he has regressed as much as he has but the talent is there .. and not forgetting players we lost like Jenkins and Mcleod

 

[JerseyRam1]

Yeah...we absolutely need to be thankful for the regime that leads us to 4-6 or worse each November, essentially castrating the fan base before the real season (Playoffs) starts. They had way more tools than most in the past 5 years and may even be worse than the first Fisher lead team.

 

[So Ram]

Your don't agree that they have drafted a talented team ? If anyone else drafted Gurley, Donald,Ogletree, tru ,brockers , Austin and now Goff that GM would be praised by the whole league. I agree they have not developed the offense as well as they should but I think all that changes with Goff. No one will ever respect keenum and he was holding everyone back because defenses knew he couldn't beat them.

With all the picks The Rams have had you could just about throw darts to make a better team.

My biggest beef is trading up for Joyner & Tavon Austin.Both smallish players.

The other picks have been excellent . Trading back for Ogletree was a great move.

When The Rams had the #2 pick from RG111 was so great, to trade back with in such a deep draft.
They did draft G. Rob 10 picks or more before Aaron Donald as well.

Why did Fisher wait so long to pick a QB ? Why did he wait so long to address the offensive line ?? Those 2 things are inexcusable .

-- On Hardknocks Fisher set the bar !! This is not a 7-9 team .

Drafting Goff for the future puts that much more pressure on him being a super star. They gave up close to RG111 type draft value .
RG111 took Washington to the playoffs they also drafted Cousins the same season.

 

[Adi]

Did you guys really think this year was a playoff year ? The point of the thread was to state that this team has been built to succeed in the near future .There is a lot of other teams that have been trying to rebuild and the rams are way ahead of them.

 

[Gandalf]

That's what we were saying last year, this year was supposed to be the near future. I was disappointed that the team didn't invest more draft capital in the OL right after they drafted Bradford. If they would have used some of those second round picks that they used reaching on players like Quick and Pead, they could of had a good OL to support their highly paid QB.
Seems like they felt they had so many picks that they could afford to gamble on potential instead of taking the more logical player.

 

[Ramlock]

Did you guys really think this year was a playoff year ?

Nope

Only one team has relocated and made the playoffs after that season since the Rams moved from Cleveland to LA and that was in a strike season.
Only 2 teams were better than .500 and they didn't make the playoffs.


1996 Houston Oilers 8-8 1997 Tennessee Oilers 8-8 no playoffs

1995 Cleveland Browns 5-11 1996 Baltimore Ravens 4-12 no playoffs

1994 Los Angeles Rams 4-12 1995 St. Louis Rams 7-9 no playoffs

1994 LA Raiders 9-7 1995 Oakland Raiders 8-8 no playoffs

1987 St. Louis Cardinals 7-8 (strike year 15 games) 1988 Phoenix Cardinals 7-9 no playoffs

1983 Baltimore Colts 7-9 1984 Indianapolis Colts 4-12 no playoffs

1981 Oakland Raiders 7-9 1982 LA Raiders 8-1 (strike year 9 games) made playoffs; lost 1st round

1959 Chicago Cardinals 2-10 1960 St. Louis Cardinals 6-5-1 no playoffs

1945 Cleveland Rams 9-1 1946 Los Angeles Rams 6-4-1 no playoffs