Article: Comparing new Rams to those they replaced.

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For the Los Angeles Rams, the 2017 season brought a revival for the franchise and the end to their twelve-season playoff drought. But to an organization trying to win over a city, fill a luxurious new stadium, and win big with a quarterback balling-out on a rookie deal; a division title was clearly only step one. During the offseason the Rams continued their remake, shuffling the deck as few teams have done before. Gone were familiar faces like Trumaine Johnson, Robert Quinn, and Alec Ogletree. In some cases, the Rams found new starters who were already on the roster, in others they were able to bring in some top shelf talent like Brandin Cooks, Ndamukong Suh, Marcus Peters, and Aqib Talib. Some of last year’s starters have remained on the roster to provide quality depth.


Clearly things have gone well for the Rams so far in 2018, as they are the only undefeated team left. But specifically, how have this season’s new starters faired compared to last season’s starters, albeit with only a six game sample size?


OFFENSE

The offense largely remained in intact and has become even more effective largely based on the maturation of Jared Goff and continuity on the offensive line with a boost from right guard Austin Blythe. The one major difference is the addition of former New England Patriots receiver Brandin Cooks, who will take the place of recently departed Sammy Watkins at the “X” receiver spot.


Brandin Cooks vs. Sammy Watkins

In 2017, Sammy Watkins gave the Rams 39 receptions for 593 yards and 8 touchdowns. This season, Brandin Cooks is on pace to catch 74 passes for 1,346 yards and 2 or 3 touchdowns.


* Watkins is having a decent year with the Kansas City Chiefs, and is currently on pace to nab 58 passes for 725 yards.


Watkins 2018 PFF grade: 67.7

Cooks 2018 PFF grade: 78.9

Verdict: Upgrade Rams



Austin Blythe vs. Jamon Brown

The Rams didn’t intend to change starting right guards, it just kinda happened, and it was love. When Brown was suspended for for the first two games due to a substance violation , Blythe played so well that the team just couldn’t pull him from the starting lineup, where he has remained for the first five games. Brown has handled the role swap admirably, like a true and patient “We Not Me” disciple. We’ll see what the future holds for soon-to-be free agent Brown.


Brown 2017 PFF grade: 51.2

Blythe 2018 PFF grade: 78.3

Verdict: Upgrade or else Brown would have been given his stating job back. It will be interesting to see how Brown plays when he gets another shot, whether that’s in L.A. or on a new team.



DEFENSE

In an effort to find the right players to elevate Wade Phillips defense, the Rams made several radical personnel decisions on defense. Due to injuries the verdict is still out for their new cornerback duo, but we can take a look at how some of our old friends are fairing on new teams and how some of their replacements have done so far in LA.


Samson Ebukam vs. Robert Quinn

Last season the Rams asked Robert Quinn to convert from a traditional 4-3 defensive end to a stand up EDGE in a Wade Phillips style 3-4. That transition was tough for Quinn, though he seemed to be more comfortable by the end of 2017. This season, he clearly seems to be happy playing his old position for the Miami Dolphins. So far, his replacement, Samson Ebukam has played a slightly more well-rounded game than Quinn gave the Rams last year, but his sack totals remain too low in the early going. Both Ebukam and Quinn have a single sack so far, but Quinn has five quarterback hits and Ebukam has only three. Worth noting, is that the Rams are paying Ebukam $10m less than Quinn received last season, so there’s that…


Quinn 2017 PFF grade: 58.1 ; 2018 PFF grade: 77.0

Ebukam 2018 PFF grade: 69.3

Verdict: Evenish, maybe a slight drop off. Massively better value against the cap though.



Matt Longacre vs. Connor Barwin

Connor Barwin provided great leadership for a 2017 squad that needed leaders to help transform a losing culture. However, Barwin had minimal production on the field, and was actually out-sacked by then-backup Matt Longacre. So the Rams gave Longacre the job. Longacre has been battling through injuries, but has yet to provide the defense with much more than Barwin did a year ago. Barwin has moved on to the New York Giants.


Barwin 2018 PFF grade: 51.8

Longacre 2018 PFF grade: 68.7

Verdict: Um, slight upgrade, I guess, according the gods at PFF.



Marcus Peters vs. Trumaine Johnson

Here’s the big move. The Rams decided not to fork over big money to retain cornerback Trumaine Johnson and then traded for the Kansas City Chiefs star cornerback Marcus Peters, who is still playing out his rookie deal and will play for significantly less than Johnson through 2019. So far, Peters has been inconsistent as he tries to play his way through a calf injury, so it would be premature to make any sort of conclusion about how he will end up fitting into in the Rams defense. His talent should work things out over time.


Johnson 2018 PFF grade: 67.0

Peters 2018 PFF grade: 48.4

Verdict: So far, downgrade due largely to Peters’ injuries. Stay tuned though, Peters should turn it around, and if he does he’ll be doing it for $8m less than Johnson this season, and $3m less next season.



Cory Littleton vs. Alec Ogletree

The Rams were 28th in the league against the run last season, so they looked to upgrade the “mike” linebacker position and traded Alec Ogletree to the Giants. They stayed in house, and promoted former backup and special teams standout Cory Littleton to take Ogletree’s spot on the cheap. So far, the Rams are 14th against the run, but are still giving up far to many yards per carry.


Littleton 2018 PFF grade: 70.9

Ogletree 2018 PFF grade: 57.2

Verdict: Upgrade, especially with Littleton’s cap number.



Aqib Talib & Troy Hill vs. Kayvon Webster & Troy Hill

The Rams brought in Talib to play the corner position opposite Peters, and early on he looked like a wonderful leader and player. However, he injured his ankle in Week 3 and won’t be back until the last quarter of the season. He would have, and will replace Hill, who turns in solid games occasionally, but on the other occasions (like against the Denver Broncos last week) he drives Rams fans absolutely nuts.



The Rams started last season with Webster starting opposite Johnson. Webster was eventually let go following a ruptured Achilles and has landed in Houston where he finally played his first snap for the Texans last week. His PFF grade?


Webster 2018 PFF grade: 90.4 (ELITE! Okay, it was 1 game, 2 snaps, and 1 tackle. There’s a slight chance Kay’s grade won’t remain at “elite” when he gets more playing time, like three snaps. But that pace though!)

Hill 2018 PFF grade: 80.1... heading into Denver, now it’s 58.5. Yowzers!

Talib 2018 PFF Grade: 77.7

Verdict: Upgrade when Talib gets back. And Kayvon, make ‘em smile in Texas.



Ndamukong Suh vs. Ethan Westbrooks, Jonathan Franklin Myers, & Co.

Last year the Rams platooned a number of defensive lineman into the games to play alongside the line’s two pillars, Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers. Most of the snaps were divided up between Morgan Fox, Ethan Westbrooks, Tanzel Smart, and Tyrunn Walker. That rotation played well for the most part last season, but this season Ndamukong Suh has played like Ndamukong Suh, so the upgrade has been pretty apparent. Since Fox hasn’t played, and Walker is gone, we’ll match Suh’s production vs Westbrooks’ and rookie Jonathan Franklin-Myers’ production, since those two would be to likely gobble up Suh’s minutes if he weren’t in L.A.


Of course, they’re all in the same Mob Squad, and it’s a luxury to have Franklin-Myers and Westbrooks to provide quality depth on the line.


Suh 2018 PFF grade: 84.5

Westbrooks 2018 PFF grade: 48.8

Franklin-Myers 2018 PFF grade: 62.8

Verdict: Yeah, it’s nice having Ndamukong in horns, for as long as he decides to stick around.
 

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I know I am in the minority but setting salary aside, I think Quinn was much better last year for the Rams than Ebukam has been this year for the Rams. Whatever you may think of Quinn's run defense he was mostly solid but he had more top end speed than Ebukam to stress the edges of the offense and he had more experience. Granted the difference in salary evens out the benefit cost a lot but the Rams D is really missing the one thing Quinn has, that elite speed off the edge.

Cooks is an obvious upgrade over Watkins and Longacre would be an upgrade over Barwin as pass rusher if he played more. I liked Johnson but a healthy Talib and Peters are a clear upgrade over whatever CB combo the Rams put up last year. Unfortunately that only lasted two and a half games Suh has been a powerful presence and except for the Seahawks game, the Ram run defense has been much better. I liked Tree but I think Littleton is a better fit in this defense and he has been an upgrade.

Overall I think lack of top speed off the edge and discontinuity in the secondary with injuries have been what has hurt the Rams Defense.

Note: Even though a lot of these were upgrades I do not have full confidence in the Rams defense going forward. That 4th Quarter against Denver especially left a bad taste in my mouth. I am glad we are 6-0, ecstatic in fact, but I am worried that defensive breakdowns will be the thing that sinks the season in the playoffs. Rams are playoff bound but are they Super Bowl bound?
 

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I know I am in the minority but setting salary aside, I think Quinn was much better last year for the Rams than Ebukam has been this year for the Rams. Whatever you may think of Quinn's run defense he was mostly solid but he had more top end speed than Ebukam to stress the edges of the offense and he had more experience. Granted the difference in salary evens out the benefit cost a lot but the Rams D is really missing the one thing Quinn has, that elite speed off the edge.

I'm going to concur, felt better with Quinn on 3rd down then Ebukam and in fact, with Quinn gone you could make the debate that Ebukam is less effective. Seems right now no pass rush is coming off the edge.
 

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Rams defense on "key" 3rd downs has been awful, in my opinion....there are 4-5 swing points in hte game, and until the 4th quarter the Rams are losing those....when they play very good teams, it will start to matter. Beatheard is a good enough thrower, and the 49ers line is good enough to allow them to run their 'concepts'.....and so, here is how I see the game.

Some game projections ( I know Kupp was never going to play):

With Kupp playing vs. 49ers---Rams get : 37-45 points
Without Kupp: 27-34 points
49ers pumped, and Rams not focused like usual: 27 points

49ers win 33-27.

Yep, that is how I am bettin' it.
 

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Rams defense on "key" 3rd downs has been awful, in my opinion....there are 4-5 swing points in hte game, and until the 4th quarter the Rams are losing those....when they play very good teams, it will start to matter. Beatheard is a good enough thrower, and the 49ers line is good enough to allow them to run their 'concepts'.....and so, here is how I see the game.

Some game projections ( I know Kupp was never going to play):

With Kupp playing vs. 49ers---Rams get : 37-45 points
Without Kupp: 27-34 points
49ers pumped, and Rams not focused like usual: 27 points

49ers win 33-27.

Yep, that is how I am bettin' it.

Yeah, I have been thinking that the Niners could be to the Rams what the Rams were to the Seahawks under Fisher. Over-matched, but it's the "big game" for them and as a result we may struggle with them.

However, that Monday night loss might be tough to overcome on a short week. If the Rams jump on them early it will be a blow out. If they screw around like they did the last few week's then who knows.