and the slight of hand continued

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http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-...uchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

Basicly one of the trick substitution plays by the Pats resulted was illegal (and of course resulted in a TD). Bill loves his slight of hand to confuse opponents and the refs. This would be funny if it wasn't such a constant issue....
The Patriots were artificially lifted to media darling status, and now that some of the falsities of what got them there is being unveilled, I predict they will ultimately be slammed to the carpet and shamed in such a way as that they never recover. My guess is there is more to come. In short, it's not good to be "a patriot" these days. Is this message supposed to be limited to "just football"? Hmmm
 

Legatron4

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I just don't care anymore. At this point I hope everyone starts fucking cheating. Just let it be a free for all and see how the NFL deals with it.
 

NukeRam

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There was one of those last second ineligible plays against the Colts where they hiked the ball so fast that their own line wasn't even set and the refs just stood there. The refs were probably thinking about how they were going to spend the money Kraft just deposited in their off shore accounts.
 

LazyWinker

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how certain are you that it isn't the NFL who is promoting it?
Major League Baseball had no idea that Sosa, McGwire, Palmiero, etc were using steroids and other PED's.

On a side note, how funny is it that once Bonds retired the Giants started winning championships?
 

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America's Most Hated: Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and the New England Patriots

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New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, left, and quarterback Tom Brady could be America's most despised duo. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)
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By Jordan Raanan | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
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on January 30, 2015 at 10:30 AM, updated January 30, 2015 at 11:25 Am

PHOENIX ‐ There's an anti-red, white and blue outbreak spreading across the nation prior toSuper Bowl XLIX. It has nothing to do with anti-Patriotism. It's simply anti-Patriot, New England that is.

It's an outbreak that had overtaken New Jersey/New York long ago. Jets fans have despised the Patriots since Bill Parcells became coach there in the early '90s. It reached a new level when Bill Belichick resigned via napkin as the Jets coach to jump to New England, where he has been ever since. Rex Ryan only fanned the distaste with those blue-collar tea dumpers from god-damn New England during his six seasons as Jets coach.

The Giants, meanwhile, faced the Patriots in their last two Super Bowls. They heard way too much about how the Patriots were the greatest team ever assembled. The Giants had no chance to win either time. Wrong. Sorry, New England, the Giants and their fans didn't bow to your greatness. They beat you ... and still dislike you!

And now, with Deflategate at the forefront of the nation's conscience, the rest of the country has joined the party. The New England Patriots have quickly overtaken the Dallas Cowboys as America's Most Hated team, if they weren't already.

Colts fans, Jets fans, Giants fans, Eagles fans, NFL fans are jumping on the Seahawks bandwagon for Super Bowl XLIX.

It's a combination of forces, beginning with the Patriots' history of cheating (Spygate) and now the potential of another similar scandal. Eleven of their 12 footballs were found underinflated in the AFC Championship Game. Coincidence, right? That combined with the Patriots' prolonged success with Belichick as coach and Tom Brady as quarterback has made it en vogue to hate the Patriots.

New England tight end Rob Gronkowski views it as little more than the price of business.

"Just laugh at it. Laugh it off. It's part of the game," Gronkowski said this week. "If you really don't have any haters, you're not doing anything right. I feel like this organization is doing a lot right now."

The Patriots are in the Super Bowl on Sunday for the sixth time in 14 years. They've won 10 or more games in 13 of those 14 seasons.

That's pretty good. It's enough to make America sick, even if their quarterback is the golden child.

Deflategate has only added to the vitriol. The Patriots have been called pathetic cheaters and crooks, among other things. They've been declared guilty in the public's eye based on past history and circumstance. As much as they have tried to block it out, everybody knows it's there, even if they downplay its importance.

"I really don't pay attention, whatever is in the papers is written or whatever is said," star cornerback Darrelle Revis said. "There are going to be distractions and adversity is going to strike during the season. That is just normal with football season. It is going to come up."

But this isn't your normal situation. This incident has pitted the entire nation against New England come Sunday. The Seattle Seahawks have officially become America's Team, even to those with little or no connection to the franchise or city.

If the Patriots win on Sunday, inevitably fingers will be pointing in their direction. A dark cloud will hang over the victory in some football fans' eyes. The Patriots won the Super Bowl because they cheated along the way, the haters will say.

"I don't care about it because we're not cheaters," wide receiver Brandon LaFell said. "I'm always the one, I don't care what people care think about me besides my family. I know my guys in my locker room are my family. I know we didn't cheat. We didn't cheat."

Safety Devin McCourty has the perfect response queued and ready to go as well. All it's going to take is a win on Sunday.

"If I have a ring on my finger, [it won't bother me] at all," he said. "I'll let them look at my ring."

Jordan Raanan may be reached at jraanan@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @JordanRaanan. Find NJ.com Giants on Facebook.


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Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are only two of the ten biggest reasons the Patriots are one of the most hated franchises in professional sports. (EPA/CJ Gunther)
 

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LOL, if they win on Sunday, people will be finding new ways to criticize the victory until no one cares anymore.

The fire-alarm-bell is in your head now, Belichick. Have fun with that.
 

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I want the Patriots to win for one reason: the backlash. Suddenly, Tom Brady is up there with Bradshaw and Montana. Belichick stands with Chuck Noll. Take that, NFL.
 

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man you'd think after the ravens game the refs would know the ineligible rules back to front when the patriots play.

what kind of donkeys do the nfl have running these playoffs?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-shactman/deflategate-super-bowl-wi_b_6517262.html



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DeflateGate: Super Bowl Win Only Hope For Patriots

The sports world is buzzing about allegations that the New England Patriots may have doctored footballs to gain an advantage in the AFC championship game.

Quick summary: On a rain-soaked field in Foxboro, Massachusetts, the Patriots destroyed the Indianapolis Colts, 45-7, to earn a berth in the SuperBowl.

The footballs used by the Patriots reportedly were deflated below acceptable levels. A deflated ball provides an advantage to the offense - easier to throw, easier to catch, easier to hold on to.




Was it enough of an advantage to be the sole cause of their 45-7 rout of the Indianapolis Colts last weekend? No. Could it have helped a little? Sure.

Might it damage the Patriots brand forever? Absolutely.

If the Patriots cheated, this story is not about one playoff game in an otherwise fine season - a season that further cemented the status of Tom Brady as one of the best players of all time and Bill Belichick as one of the greatest coaches of all time.

If the Patriots cheated, it casts a pall over an entire franchise that has been viewed as a model of success. Actually, "casts a pall" is a far too cliché and far too easy way to characterize what this is.

If the Patriots cheated (conscious use of repetition), an entire era is in question ... because of the subsequent questions.

Have the Patriots done something like this before?

Have the Patriots done other things to get an advantage?

What else have they done ... what else do they do?

And then the real macro questions ...

Have the Patriots really been THAT good or is it just because they cheated?

Is Brady not as good as we think? Belichek?

You get the point.

Cheaters like Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong come to mind. The contexts and transgressions are different, but their personal narratives were totally destroyed by what they did.

Melodramatic as it sounds, there is a chance of that happening here.

Don't forget 2007 when the Patriots were caught taping signals from an opposing team.

That controversy was called SpyGate, and the result was a total of $750,000 in fines and the loss of a draft pick. The real damage was the perception of a team that used every advantage it could to win.

Regardless of what New England fans think and say, their three SuperBowl wins were tainted.

In the years since, the firestorm largely faded. The Patriots kept on winning but could not win another Super Bowl.

Despite the team's wins-losses, a lot of people around the NFL -- usually good teams unable to usurp New England -- have not forgotten. Just two weeks ago, leading into the playoff game against Baltimore, Ravens players past and present still referred to the Patriots as cheaters.

Dismissed as jealous banter, their complaints suddenly resonate once again.

Of course, in DeflateGate, nothing has been proven, and nothing has been admitted.

Yet.

Back to someone like Lance Armstrong for a minute. In his sport of cycling, doping was pervasive. His biggest crime was his denial for years that he ever cheated. He threatened people, called them liars, and bullied anyone who expressed doubt. So, when the evidence became irrefutable, Armstrong had no choice but to backtrack. That made him look even worse, and what's more, there was zero empathy.

There is no indication that there is league-wide cheating on things like air pressure in the balls, but even with SpyGate, the Patriots have been arrogant about the franchise's winning legacy. They regularly tout the "Patriot Way" and the best modern winning tradition in American sport.

Outside of New England, fans and teams wouldn't mind seeing that legacy tarnished, and if found guilty in DeflateGate, empathy will be zero.

In the end, there is only one way to salvage a damaged legacy, regardless of guilt or innocence: Win the SuperBowl and win it big.