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8 NFL QB's at career crossroads

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Prime Time, May 22, 2014.

  1. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    Lots of money and draft capital has been spent on O and you cannot deny that.
     
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  2. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I'm on your side here.......this thread obviously counts.
     
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  3. RhodyRams Well-Known Member

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  4. Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    Well you better identify a target, b/c in the years where Sam Bradford played all 16 games...his numbers were:

    3512 yards, 18 TDs.

    3702 yards, 21 TDs.

    Sam is fully capable of putting up numbers. It's high time the rest of the team pulls its weight. Good thing is they are getting there, if not already.
     
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  5. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    So basically, Sams 2 year average of his best years equate to 3,607 yards and 20 td, and that somehow is comforting in comparison to Brady's "worst" season average of 3740 and 26 td ?

    I'm behind Sam 100% this season and have no doubt he has the tools he needs to be succesful, just done with all the excuses for past performance or lack thereof
     
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  6. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    That was a perfectly fair and accurate post and sums up how a lot of us feel. Before he got hurt he was putting up numbers that were an upgrade from his past and I think that means we will see that next year. If not, well let the games begin I guess.
     
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  7. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Well whereas I don't agree all the reasons he performed at lesser levels than a Brady can be termed excuses,I think if he and his team stay healthy and he doesn't perform there will be excuses needed to excuse it.
    To say NOW that nothing from here on out could happen to derail his season that was without his control and he should be judged harshly no matter what that is would IMO be n excuse to criticize in advance, it think he's been given all he needs to succeed and if it isn't all taken away over the season I'll judge him accordingly
     
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  8. Da-Rock New Member

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    My view of the WR talent issue and Sam = If two or three of the WRs start playing better along with Sam then suddenly that would negate any argument that the Rams have not infused top WR talent into the roster.

    Gronk, iMurder and Welker were unknowns until they became stars. Welker was undrafted. We could have 3 to 4 of our WRs line it all up in one season and suddenly the Rams would be considered the deepest talent at WR.

    These debates over Sam and the WRs need to be postponed to next year. That's when they will have real footing if the WRs and Sam do not perform.
     
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  9. Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't that actually be OUT before the lock?

    Pragmatically they do NOW since even if the concerns are correct, what can be done about it now that the draft is over and done?

    But there should be nothing wrong with being very concerned about a Rams unit. A lot of us are concerned about the secondary even with the help they got, and that doesn't get the reaction concern about the WRs does.
     
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  10. Stranger How big is infinity?

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    Yeah @Prime Time is trying to duck this one. But the all seeing Bradford Police sees all and doesn't miss I trick. On our scorecard, this one counts :)
     
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  11. Prime Time RODerator

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  12. kurtfaulk Well-Known Member

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    you do realise he was on pace to throw 32 tds last season before he got injured?

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  13. Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    Huh? First you said you'd kill for those types of numbers, and in the 2 years Sam played full seasons they are very much comparable to Tom Brady's average.

    I don't see how about a 150 yards is much of a difference. Yes, 6 more TDs would be more desirable. I'll give you that. Probably a myriad of reasons why he hasn't acheived that yet.

    What excuses? That his players around him weren't good enough? Is that why the FO has constantly cut and replaced guys all while being adamant Sam Bradford is the starting QB and not drafting Robert Griffin III or Johnny Manziel or whoever until Garrett freakin Gilbert?
     
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  14. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I thought his name was Gilbert Grape. :whistle:
     
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  15. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Sound like my wife.

    And yes I know I threw you one over the meat of the plate.
     
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  16. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of the "on pace" stuff. Because they were also "on pace" to have 0 rushing Td last year while Sam was playing.
     
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  17. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the 6 more Td passes make the numbers non comparable.

    And why so hung up on the term excuse? What term would your prefer? Reasons? I think he had legitimate excuses for not living up to expectations.

    Relax, take a breath. I'm on the same side here. Whatever "reasons" his performance was held back is behind us and he should be free to show what he's made of this year.

    Better??
     
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  18. bluesjoc Long time poster,First time reader

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  19. laramsoriginal Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Stop the on pace talk. He didn't accomplish those numbers because he was injured.

    Like I stated earlier, remaining healthy is also a prerequisite for being a top QB. Year 5, time to produce. No more "potential" talk or on pace hypotheticals please
     
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  20. HE WITH HORNS Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, because we had zero rushing game for the beginning of the season. Someone had to make up for that lack of production.
     
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