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included my notes to myself..sparq really matters for olinemen so these rankings will be moved around after combine/pro day numbers CH stands for character give players a + or - rating ACA stands for academic
. Andrus Peat LT Stanford LT 6’7 320 long arms noticeable difference power in run vs. pass
Brandon Scherff OT/G 6’5 310 Iowa very strong lacks quickness to be elite lt..all pro guard
Lael Collins OT/G 6'5 315 LSU lacks bend at guard. loses power in punch maturity/wonderlic?
TJ Clemmings OT Pittsburgh 6’5 310 RT/LT physical and fast plays rt but could easily play left..raw shades of Jason Smith player
Ereck Flowers OT Miami 6’6 325 powerful with enough quickness to play LT
Jake Fisher OT Oregon 6’6 300 RT really nice player..combative light feet
AJ Cann G Auburn l CH++ lacks elite power/quickness passes the eyeball test nice
Cameron Erving C/G/OT Florida 6’6 300 5 games in career at center?
Ty Sambrailo Colorado St T/G 6’6 315 LT elite athlete lacks upper body strength great job of sliding picking up blitzers/2nd
Josue Matias G Florida St solid vs. run/pass
Reese Dismukes C 6’2 295 CH+++mister smooth..does everthing well day 1 starter
Laken Tomlinson G Duke 6'3 323 CH+++ long arms very good in pass pro solid vs. run but not a road grader and avg in 2nd level
Cedric Ogbuehi OT Texas A&M 6’5 300 LT lacks power/weak hands athletic quick drop in pass pro recent ACL injury maybe ready by training camp
Hroniss Grasu C Oregon Ch+++ injured senior season better in pass pro
Arie Kouandjio G Alabama 6’5 320 CH++ ACA econ major powerful player does a solid job in pass pro lacks some flexibility knee injuries a concern
. Tre' Jackson G 6’4 325 lacks quickness strong vs. run
weight lifter productive voted top olineman at senior bowl
Daryl Williams OT Oklahoma 6’5 334 RT not as bulky but similar to Loadholt
Jamil Douglas G Arizona St 6’4 307 CH+++ ACA leadership 1st team Pac 10 at LT…athletic plays angry Douglas is a long-time reliable starter, a ridiculous physical specimen who can power clean 385 pounds, squat 565, run a sub-5 second forty, and has a body fat measurement in the teens
Max Garcia C/G/OT Florida 6’4 300 CH+++ senior bowl 2nd team SEC at center as a senior very light feet/long arms functional strength to hold poa
Austin Shepherd OT/G 6’4 1/2 324 Alabama ch+++ ACA senior bowl RT 2nd SEC very solid in pass pro and enough functional speed/coordination to be solid on 2nd level
Andy Gallik C Boston College 6’2 300 bulldog type of player good quickness
John Miller G Louisville 6’3 315 great shrine week/game falls off blocks/slightly stiff but a player
Jarvis Harrison G Texas A&M 6’4 344 CH+++ “most athletic linemen on team” played lt very powerful almost 34 arms and 10 inch hands
Donovan Smith Penn State 606 341 10 1/2 solid senior bowl rt only
Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin 6’7 330 CH+++ massive rt with quick feet will knock you down 33 5/8 arms
Robert Myers OG/OT Tennesee St 6’5 329 Senior bowl invite raw but very athletic 34 arms
Ali Marpet OT/G Hobart 6’4 307 D3 kid smart CH+++ nice athlete hard punch showed he belongs at senior bowl
 

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included my notes to myself..sparq really matters for olinemen so these rankings will be moved around after combine/pro day numbers CH stands for character give players a + or - rating ACA stands for academic
. Andrus Peat LT Stanford LT 6’7 320 long arms noticeable difference power in run vs. pass
Brandon Scherff OT/G 6’5 310 Iowa very strong lacks quickness to be elite lt..all pro guard
Lael Collins OT/G 6'5 315 LSU lacks bend at guard. loses power in punch maturity/wonderlic?
TJ Clemmings OT Pittsburgh 6’5 310 RT/LT physical and fast plays rt but could easily play left..raw shades of Jason Smith player
Ereck Flowers OT Miami 6’6 325 powerful with enough quickness to play LT
Jake Fisher OT Oregon 6’6 300 RT really nice player..combative light feet
AJ Cann G Auburn l CH++ lacks elite power/quickness passes the eyeball test nice
Cameron Erving C/G/OT Florida 6’6 300 5 games in career at center?
Ty Sambrailo Colorado St T/G 6’6 315 LT elite athlete lacks upper body strength great job of sliding picking up blitzers/2nd
Josue Matias G Florida St solid vs. run/pass
Reese Dismukes C 6’2 295 CH+++mister smooth..does everthing well day 1 starter
Laken Tomlinson G Duke 6'3 323 CH+++ long arms very good in pass pro solid vs. run but not a road grader and avg in 2nd level
Cedric Ogbuehi OT Texas A&M 6’5 300 LT lacks power/weak hands athletic quick drop in pass pro recent ACL injury maybe ready by training camp
Hroniss Grasu C Oregon Ch+++ injured senior season better in pass pro
Arie Kouandjio G Alabama 6’5 320 CH++ ACA econ major powerful player does a solid job in pass pro lacks some flexibility knee injuries a concern
. Tre' Jackson G 6’4 325 lacks quickness strong vs. run
weight lifter productive voted top olineman at senior bowl
Daryl Williams OT Oklahoma 6’5 334 RT not as bulky but similar to Loadholt
Jamil Douglas G Arizona St 6’4 307 CH+++ ACA leadership 1st team Pac 10 at LT…athletic plays angry Douglas is a long-time reliable starter, a ridiculous physical specimen who can power clean 385 pounds, squat 565, run a sub-5 second forty, and has a body fat measurement in the teens
Max Garcia C/G/OT Florida 6’4 300 CH+++ senior bowl 2nd team SEC at center as a senior very light feet/long arms functional strength to hold poa
Austin Shepherd OT/G 6’4 1/2 324 Alabama ch+++ ACA senior bowl RT 2nd SEC very solid in pass pro and enough functional speed/coordination to be solid on 2nd level
Andy Gallik C Boston College 6’2 300 bulldog type of player good quickness
John Miller G Louisville 6’3 315 great shrine week/game falls off blocks/slightly stiff but a player
Jarvis Harrison G Texas A&M 6’4 344 CH+++ “most athletic linemen on team” played lt very powerful almost 34 arms and 10 inch hands
Donovan Smith Penn State 606 341 10 1/2 solid senior bowl rt only
Rob Havenstein OT Wisconsin 6’7 330 CH+++ massive rt with quick feet will knock you down 33 5/8 arms
Robert Myers OG/OT Tennesee St 6’5 329 Senior bowl invite raw but very athletic 34 arms
Ali Marpet OT/G Hobart 6’4 307 D3 kid smart CH+++ nice athlete hard punch showed he belongs at senior bowl

I would be very happy if the Rams end up with either Scherff or Peat in the 1st Round and either Clemings (Although, the Jason Smith comparison really scares me!), Collins, Flowers, Erving, Tomlinson or Cann in the 2nd Round! I do realize that some of those players will be long gone but at least a couple of them have a good chance of still being there with the Rams 2nd Round Pick.
 

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Thanks for this Bonifay....
I love a good list and I love Oline play.
Now, I have a bunch of home work to do....
Of the cuff I like Schreff as a G next to Robinson, but, I don't think he will be there at 10 as someone will grab him to play T. I also like Collins quite a bit.
 

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Collins is hard to evaluate. 2? years ago the .LSU trainer listed 5/6 of the laziest players on the team and Collins made the list...former boy/eagle scout....moves like someone 50lbs lighter..scary hand punch, watched enough interviews to question his maturity and possibly his wonderlic...

a tad short for a ot and loses some power when he plays guard...still an elite prospect who might a take a year or 2 to develop

IMO rams need a plug and play guy...IMO Scherff or Laken Thomlinson in the 3rd might be a better and safer way to go..
 

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Thanks for this Bonifay....
I love a good list and I love Oline play.
Now, I have a bunch of home work to do....
Of the cuff I like Schreff as a G next to Robinson, but, I don't think he will be there at 10 as someone will grab him to play T. I also like Collins quite a bit.

This years listings from several other sites seems to be more unsettled than in the past. I am sure that by the end of the combine it will fall in where most sites are closer together in their rankings. Schreff looks like a Rodger Saffold clone but not as far along in his pass blocking talents as Saffold in 2010 when we selected Saffold in the 2nd round. I am only interested in Schreff if he finally shows an ability to contain those pest-sty smaller pass rushers (that beat Barksdale all day long) in Schreff "Draft Me High Events" in his pass protection to where he can play ORT. I hold very little hope that he can man the OLT post in the NFL.

The top OL'er that I feel would fit nicely here is LSU's Collins. He has the looks of a perfect Right OT in the NFL. Collins could also fill the swing OT role when needed along with playing either OG post. I still have not wrote Pitts TJ Clemmings off either. TJ is nowhere ready to play ORT at the moment in the NFL, however he could play OG and then as he gains through time the tech's of his vocation he has make up to play either OT post in a few yrs. I bet that Boudreau really like FSU's Erving due to his ability to play anywhere on the OL.

I would be very happy if the Rams end up with either Scherff or Peat in the 1st Round and either Clemings (Although, the Jason Smith comparison really scares me!), Collins, Flowers, Erving, Tomlinson or Cann in the 2nd Round! I do realize that some of those players will be long gone but at least a couple of them have a good chance of still being there with the Rams 2nd Round Pick.

Peat looks like a pure Left OT IMO so I not all that interested. Many around here like Flowers. If he can show he has quick enough feet & his pass protection set is better I would too. TJ Clemmings is just very raw at this time, he could be a steal if he fall out of the first round.
 

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Collins is hard to evaluate. 2? years ago the .LSU trainer listed 5/6 of the laziest players on the team and Collins made the list...former boy/eagle scout....moves like someone 50lbs lighter..scary hand punch, watched enough interviews to question his maturity and possibly his wonderlic...

a tad short for a ot and loses some power when he plays guard...still an elite prospect who might a take a year or 2 to develop

IMO rams need a plug and play guy...IMO Scherff or Laken Thomlinson in the 3rd might be a better and safer way to go..

Nice to meet you thehammer. Nice to hold a discussion with you this late morning. Guess your strictly looking @ the OG opening?

I am not pondering in that lone area. My chain of thought travels in the direction of getting The "Best OL'er Available" with that first round top 10 selection. I thinking that a OL'er who has the size skills & latent talent to play ORT/OLG/ORG/OLT when its all said & done. This Rams team does not have a ORT or a swing OT under contract. They do however have 3 to 4 interior OL prospects under contract. Collins is over 6-5. was the best OLT in the Senior Bowl. I will agree that La'el would cause high concerns in the maturity level & he is certainly nowhere close to a Rodger Saffold in brain power:)

I would be looking hard @ Laken Tomlinson in the 2nd round with our #41 selection too!
 

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I'm finally willing this year to admit pre draft what I usually don't admit until post draft - but here goes .... I'm only slightly more accurate at NFL Draft projections than a blind man with a dart board.

Having said that - some thoughts ....

I like Flowers a lot more than most people I talk to - and Peat feels like fools gold to me. I'm intrigued by Clemmings but I'm starting to wonder if I have the patience to wait for him to fully get it. Who am I kidding, I'm a Rams fan - all I have is patience.

I like La'el quite a bit, and I want to be pretty dad gum sure that we come out of day 2 of the draft with one of Grasu, Erving, or Dismukes. Give me my pick of the 3 and I'll take Erving - the highest ceiling.

3 O Line picks in the first 3 rounds would be just fine with me - it's time.
 

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I'll chip in after the combine, I have thoughts on most of these guys, but I like to see them side by side to make my final rankings.

Good job hammer.
 
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Collins is hard to evaluate. 2? years ago the .LSU trainer listed 5/6 of the laziest players on the team and Collins made the list...former boy/eagle scout....moves like someone 50lbs lighter..scary hand punch, watched enough interviews to question his maturity and possibly his wonderlic...

a tad short for a ot and loses some power when he plays guard...still an elite prospect who might a take a year or 2 to develop

IMO rams need a plug and play guy...IMO Scherff or Laken Thomlinson in the 3rd might be a better and safer way to go..

And then this year, they gave him along with two others the Strength and Conditioning Award:
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/lsu-lael-collins-mvp-awards-banquet/
Players do mature.
 

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New poster here-------thanks for the list, great work and very informative! We need two guys from your list,
rd 1. ereck flowers (I think we can trade back a few slots and still get him), play him at RT
rd. 2 arie kouandijo (maybe he drops to 3rd rd.) , play him at LG
Hopefully we can get either Hudson or Wiz in FA to be our starting C.
Thanks again for the list!
 

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Ty Sambrailo Colorado St T/G 6’6 315 LT elite athlete lacks upper body strength great job of sliding picking up blitzers/2nd

Also have to disagree here. Sambrailo isn't an elite athlete. He's not that great of an athlete. I'd call him above average for a NFL OT. What I love about Sambrailo is his nastiness.

Needs to add strength and improve his body in a NFL S&C program but I think he'll be okay if given the time. And ultimately, I think he'll be a very good NFL RT.
 

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Do agree with a lot of what else you said, though.(except I prefer Gallik to Grassu...and might even prefer him to Dismukes)
 

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Gallik is one of my favorites in this draft....love the kid..lot of good centers this year

will say I expect Ali Marpet to shoot up the list after the combine..expect a sub 5.0 forty maybe better then even Kyle Long or Bitonio ran
econ major from Hobart strong and fast and played well at senior bowl..that adds up to late 2nd/3rd IMO
 

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Here's some other sites:
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015OT.php

http://www.drafttek.com/default.asp

Collins is very intriguing, and I agree on his upside, which could be Pro Bowl upside at Guard.

Rams just happen to be in a position that makes Collins a good fit. If Collins does not show enough promise @ OLT, he sure shows more prospective promise @ ORT ....then Collins sure has the look of an outstanding OG at both OG positions. As I stated above if Collins has issues @ OLT ...not a problem Rams have Greg Robinson. If he is not quite up to speed to battle NFL edge pass rushers yet @ ORT its not a total fail here the Rams have a Grand Canyon size HOLE @ one OG post. So I sure do not see much risk involved with La'el Collins. Saffold could operate from the ORT post with Collins next to him until Collins gain enough experience in the NFL. It may take a 4 or 5 games or maybe 10 but by the conclusion of the 2015 season Collins should be operating from the ORT post with Saffold sliding back inside to ORG.

I do feel strongly that Collins can be a much better ORT than Joe Barksdale in his protection against those quick double move speed pass rushers. The only real thing that should bother some is the fact you utilize a #10 selection on a right OT.
 
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Do agree with a lot of what else you said, though.(except I prefer Gallik to Grassu...and might even prefer him to Dismukes)

I am not crazy about Galik. He is very quick off the snap. He gets upright and makes contact first.......then often goes backwards. Is that technique? Or is he too light in the butt?

That doesn't mean he isn't better than Grasu or Dismukes though. I prefer Erving at Center.
 

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I prefer Erving at Center.

I bet all I have in ROD $$$ that Boudreau is really looking into Cameron. He is far from a finished product at this point but like Saffold. Cam shows he can be worked in most anywhere. Fisher & Boudreau have had needs to start Saffold @ ORT then @ ORG then @ OLT then back to @ ORG then flipped back to @ OLG post.

OL'er Barrett Jones caught Sneads & Boudreau's early attention when Barrett started 26 games @ ORG then started a few @ ORT then flipped over to OLT & started 10 games there & won a half dozen awards then finally moving all the way inside & won more awards. In spite of a serious foot injury they took Barrett with the first selection on the third day. Boudreau took a serious like to Mike Person....who can play any of the OL posts if need be. I would bet that UFA Person is resigned & gets major work in OTA/TC & pre season @ Center!

So you know that the talented Cameron who began as a DT @ FSU then moved to offensive OL right into starting blindside protector OLT in one season. He was very effective @ OLT then when things went real bad @ center he moved to inside to OC . I'm not so sure he will stay @ center in the NFL or if he were to be drafted here. I see where most mocks have him going in the late first round now if thats the case they are looking at him @ OT. Snead could get lucky if he fails to us @ #41 pick.

Bottom line any of these OL prospects who only play one post will not get much of a look from Boudreau. And a Ol'er Cameron Erving will see much.
 

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I bet all I have in ROD $$$ that Boudreau is really looking into Cameron. He is far from a finished product at this point but like Saffold. Cam shows he can be worked in most anywhere. Fisher & Boudreau have had needs to start Saffold @ ORT then @ ORG then @ OLT then back to @ ORG then flipped back to @ OLG post.

OL'er Barrett Jones caught Sneads & Boudreau's early attention when Barrett started 26 games @ ORG then started a few @ ORT then flipped over to OLT & started 10 games there & won a half dozen awards then finally moving all the way inside & won more awards. In spite of a serious foot injury they took Barrett with the first selection on the third day. Boudreau took a serious like to Mike Person....who can play any of the OL posts if need be. I would bet that UFA Person is resigned & gets major work in OTA/TC & pre season @ Center!

So you know that the talented Cameron who began as a DT @ FSU then moved to offensive OL right into starting blindside protector OLT in one season. He was very effective @ OLT then when things went real bad @ center he moved to inside to OC . I'm not so sure he will stay @ center in the NFL or if he were to be drafted here. I see where most mocks have him going in the late first round now if thats the case they are looking at him @ OT. Snead could get lucky if he fails to us @ #41 pick.

Bottom line any of these OL prospects who only play one post will not get much of a look from Boudreau. And a Ol'er Cameron Erving will see much.
I concur. It appears to be our pattern.