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2013 NFL Draft/Prospect Discussion thread

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Memento, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. NFLDraft101 New Member

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    2013 NFL Draft: Shawn Williams - DB - Georgia

    Potential SS prospect for Rams in 2013 NFL Draft?

    Shawn Williams - DB - Georgia

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  2. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    The real question with Austin becomes is there a true position for him in the NFL? Is he a good enough receiver to be a receiver alone or play wr as his primary receiver? If Amendola and Gibson leave the Rams have to replace a large % of their passing offense....and hopefully improve on it. Austin garnered a lot of yards out of the backfield. Players who come into the league of split position or "slash" sort of players dont have a big history of doing amazing things. What percentage of the Rams offense would the OC being willing to dedicate to an "Austin" package? The NFL, like all pro sports, is a league of specialists. Im not saying that a guy like Austin wont excel, he is pretty clearly one of the most athletic guys in the draft. However, for every Reggie Bush (who has underachieved in my book) there is a Todd Kinchen....a guy who was supposed to be a multi-position threat guy who is just average at several things. What I am trying to say in a very long winded way is that the Rams would really have to define a roll for Austin if they were to draft him. How close is he to being an NFL ready WR? If the guy is seen as a kick returner, a project at WR and a guy to run several times a games out of the backfield, 16 is way too high for that.

    Saying all of that, I am now down on Austin. In fact I think he is the most exciting player in this draft. The thing that is hard to determine from outside of the coaches meeting room is how it is perceived a player would fit into a system and fit the personel around him.

    It will be interesting to see where Austin ends up.
     
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  3. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    That's an interesting take. I wonder what kind of production people tie to draft slots. Meaning, how many TDs would justify taking a guy at 16? Or, how many snaps per game would a guy drafted at 16 need to be in on? What if the guy is in on all snaps, is a great TE, but really only gets the ball about 10 times per game (and that's a high number for a TE). Would 16 be okay? 22?

    I'm still high on taking the best TE in the draft and improving the passing game THAT way. But, also, I'm pretty high on Austin as well. He, too, would improve the offense quite a bit, IMO, and would solve our multi-year problem in the return game immediately. And if Dolamite isn't re-signed, then there's a gaping hole at slot receiver. Austin would fill that nicely. So, if DA is gone and Austin is sitting there at 16, would need become a factor and make the choice easier? Lots of things to consider with a player like TA.
     
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  4. bluecoconuts Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I'd take Austin at 16 at all, there's going to be other better talent there to take, it wouldn't be smart. Even 22 is a bit of a reach, but it would be understandable, especially if Amendola leaves. If Amendola stays, as much as I love Austin, I wouldn't take him. Unless he somehow slipped to 46, then I would.
     
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  5. Username Has a Well-Known Member

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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap1000000140636/article/keenan-allen-wont-work-out-at-nfl-scouting-combine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap100 ... ng-combine</a>
     
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  6. DR RAM Rams Lifer

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    Not even in my top 3 anyway. This will hurt him, IMO.
     
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  7. Username Has a Well-Known Member

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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/bruce-feldman/21736203/kennan-allen-wont-workout-at-combine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... at-combine</a>
     
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  8. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    This kind of lends itself to what I was saying. Drafting a player that high you better have a plan and fit for him. Someone like Warmack or Cooper, it is obvious, they would be on the field every offensive play. A guy that projects as a starting S or OLB would be on the field most plays in a worst case (lets say a LB that is a 2 down player). I was not saying that I think Austin isent worthy of a high pick, but, who drafts him needs to have a defined roll for him so he doesnt turn into a glorified kick returner. That is the tough part of all this draft business....being able to project how to fit guys in and what their ceiling is. Everyone in the league was high on Jimmy Kennedy, no one drafted D'marco Farr.

    To your example of a blocking TE, if his roll was to be that, a dominating blocking TE and he saw action 60% of O snaps, that would be a successful pick even if he never scored. If he was drafted to be a blocker, a downfield pass receiver and run TE sweeps (or whatever) and he turned out to be just a great blocker, it would be a bad pick. The idea of drafting a guy because he is athletic and saying (Im not saying YOUR saying this) "we will find a spot for him" seems a bad way to go about it to me.
     
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  9. shaunpinney Well-Known Member

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    I hope we stay away from WR's in the first round I'd like to see us pick up a FA tried and tested WR (instead of Smith, who was just using up a roster spot in 2012). But Givens was coming into his own and I'm really hoping that Quick is going to be on the field more this season.

    think we'll probably go for:

    #16 - Chase Warmack (OG, North Carolina)
    #22 - Jon Cooper (OG, North Carolina) / Kenny Vaccaro (FS, Texas)

    Round 2: from:
    Tavon Austin - if he's still on the board (WR, West Virginia);
    Upshaw (DE, Alabama);
    Ertz (TE, Stanford);
    Mike Adams (OT, Ohio);
    Dallas Thomas (OT, Tennessee);
    DJ Fluker (OT, Alabama)

    Round 3
    Jelani Jenkins (OLB, Florida)
    Baccari Rambo (FS, Georgia);
    Kyle Long (OT, Oregon);
    Da'Rick Rogers (WR, Tennessee);
    Brandon Jenkins (OLB, Florida)

    Round 4
    Josh Boyd (DT, Miss. State)
    Zeke Motta (FS, Notre Dame)

    Round 5
    William Gholston (DE, Michigan)
    Duke Williams (SS, Nevada)

    Round 6
    Jeff Baca (G, UCLA)
    Braden Hansen (GG, BYU)

    Round 7
    Rodney Smith (WR, FSU)
    Christine Michael (RB, Texas A&M)
    Theo Riddick (RB, Notre Dame)
     
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  10. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    That is major "best case" scenario that Warmack and Vaccarro fall to the Rams. If either one is there it is a no brainer in my opinion to draft them. I would be surprised if they either one falls that far. Things become a lot less clear if they are both gone. I dont think Ertz falls to 46 or whereever we are in the second round either. If they can grab Warmack and Vaccarro in the first that would be fantastic and improve the team a ton immediatly.
     
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  11. NFLDraft101 New Member

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    2013 NFL Draft: Dallas Thomas - OL - Tennessee

    Potential OL prospect for the Rams in this year's draft

    Dallas Thomas - OL - Tennessee

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC8aqegJ5aM[/youtube]
     
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  12. bluecoconuts Well-Known Member

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    If we draft Warmack there's also the option to have Dahl play RT. Two years ago he did a pretty good job, but I don't know how he would do for a full season. But say Rok is able to play the LG spot (which he should), Warmack takes RG, and then Dahl can take RT allowing Snead to focus on playmakers for Sam and more playmakers on defense.
     
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  13. Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    Combine...can't wait to see which lineman is better suited b/c he has 33 and a half inch arms and the other guy has 3 inch arms. I know some ppl love it but its not that important.
     
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  14. shaunpinney Well-Known Member

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    Definitely a best case scenario, which is why I've given options, I see us taking either Warmack or Vaccarro in R1, but draft day is its own machine :) and I for one am excited! Snead and Fisher did a good job last off-season
     
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  15. Username Has a Well-Known Member

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    That line could bulldose some holes if Rok ever turns out
     
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  16. Username Has a Well-Known Member

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    Mayock is now saying the Chiefs should consider taking Warmack 1st overall. Omfg. I'm not arguing that he's a great prospect, but oh my freak. :roll:
     
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  17. DR RAM Rams Lifer

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    I hope they do, it would just roll more good players to us. How much impact can you really make from one guard position? Enough to warrant a number one overall pick?
     
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  18. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Steve Wyche and Mark Kriegel debate whether or not drafting a guard with the No. 1 pick would detract from the NFL Draft.

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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.stlouisrams.com/media-center/videos/Double-Coverage-Drafting-a-Guard-First-Overall/82306ead-06ec-4914-a7fc-5eb22fd07821" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.stlouisrams.com/media-center ... b22fd07821</a>
     
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  19. Memento Ser Memento (alias, The Winged Knight).

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    What. What? What?!

    He's a freaking guard, Mayock! All this talk of top ten, let alone number one overall, is bullcrap because guards don't ever go that high! If Steve Hutchinson didn't go in the top ten, then there's no chance in hell that Warmack will! Besides, if any non-quarterback is going to go to the Chiefs (which they won't because their fans will freaking riot and burn down the entire freaking city if they pick yet another lineman in the first round), it will be Luke Joeckel, not Chance Warmack!

    ...Okay. Rant's over.
     
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  20. Username Has a Well-Known Member

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    Don't know if you guys know about this one yet or not, but it is a pretty good site to find videos on a player pretty fast. They have most of em.

    <a class="postlink" href="http://draftbreakdown.com/category/videos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://draftbreakdown.com/category/videos</a>
     
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