#13- Retire it!

[ABIGRAMFAN]

Does it bother any of you that #13 is being worn on the field and not a retired #?

Nothing against Chris Givens, but it bugs me. Warner's # should be retired.

 

[ramaslama]

agreed!

 

[Mister Sin]

Not at all, love what he did for us, but he wasn't here long enough to get the nod for retirement.

 

[A55VA6]

No, shouldn't be retired in my opinion.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

It bothered me when I heard Givens was going to wear that number. Givens should have known better and had more respect than that. Half the people that come to the games still have a #13 jersey.

 

[Tron]

Personally I think it should be retired. Understand why some say no, but he gets my vote.

 

[kurtfaulk]

It bothered me when I heard Givens was going to wear that number. Givens should have known better and had more respect than that. Half the people that come to the games still have a #13 jersey.

I hope givens doesn't delude himself like gilyard did a few years ago - "so many fans are wearing my number".

Btw, I have no problem with givens wearing that number.

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[MerlinJones]

No problem at all with #13 being active.

Retiring a number should be reserved for all-time greats.
As much as I like and appreciate Warner, I don't think it's called for.

 

[yrba1]

His loyalty is with the Cardinals and he openly admits it. Fine by me, I don't blame him after Martz was solely responsible for his failures post-2002. I'd do exactly the same thing also.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

I don't blame him after Martz was solely responsible for his failures post-2002.

So Martz was to blame for Warner not being able to hold onto the football in New York and Arizona?
I would blame the broken thumb before I'd point my crooked finger at Martz.

 

[SierraRam]

Kurt led the GSOT to the Lombardi Trophy. #13 is in. And #76, Big O too!

(and #65, HOF'er Tom Mack)

 

[Leuzer]

This is probably an unpopular idea but I would never retire a jersey #. Just stick with the ring of honor so others players have the option to wear their favorite number.

 

[Tron]

This is probably an unpopular idea but I would never retire a jersey #. Just stick with the ring of honor so others players have the option to wear their favorite number.

I agree with that, but since they do retire #'s I think his should be retired.

In 50-100 years the nfl will jave to start using numbers above 99 lol

 

[Boffo97]

People wore #29 before it was retired too (not to mention #75, but that was way too long).

I think it should be retired, but Givens (nor Brock Berlin) is part of the problem.

 

[yrba1]

So Martz was to blame for Warner not being able to hold onto the football in New York and Arizona?
I would blame the broken thumb before I'd point my crooked finger at Martz.

Martz was also notorious for getting QBs killed because he wanted to chuck it deep most of the time, just ask Jay Cutler and Alex Smith. He's an excellent OC to have when a head coach can keep his ego in check, otherwise he'll abandon the run game entirely so bad that even a decent pass rushing team will look like the Fearsome Foursome out there.

 

[Debacled]

I love me some Warner, but lets be real here. Yes, he was directly responsible for that SB win in 99. He only had 2 healthy seasons in STL (blame Martz if you will), and between the other three seasons he played just about enough games to fill out one season's schedule of games. Injuries or superbowls or what have you he ended up playing essentially for quite a short time for the Rams and also ended up playing more games in Arizona.

Retire numbers at that rate and there won't be any left to choose from in hardly any time at all.

 

[ScotsRam]

Retiring numbers is stupid. There are 99 numbers and 90 pre-season roster spots, it doesn't make sense.

Is it not a team sport anyway?

 

[The Rammer]

I'm just saying they should retire #39 before # 13....

 

[Pancake]

I don't think he is a Ram at heart so no. He was certainly good enough as a player to be worthy though.

 

[Stranger]

the guy pledged his allegiance to Zona.... no way do we retire his number.